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re: I posted on PoliBoard, but you OT ballers will like it, too

Posted on 12/14/15 at 11:39 am to
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67497 posts
Posted on 12/14/15 at 11:39 am to
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This line of thinking is what caused the last housing and national financial meltdown.

Partly
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18315 posts
Posted on 12/14/15 at 11:39 am to
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I put zero down on my first home purchase?


Nothing is necessarily wrong with it, but it depends on the buyer and what you bought the home for. Low income families should not be able to put zero down, no exceptions.
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
27486 posts
Posted on 12/14/15 at 11:40 am to
I am poor, and hate the poor.
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
40686 posts
Posted on 12/14/15 at 11:40 am to
stout

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I deal with this every day in multiple states and work with HUD, Fannie, Freddie as well as all the big banks.



You also talk to Jesus and managed to turn Christ into an a-hole...
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
27486 posts
Posted on 12/14/15 at 11:43 am to
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Nothing is necessarily wrong with it, but it depends on the buyer and what you bought the home for. Low income families should not be able to put zero down, no exceptions.



Bought a 130k house for 65k in college making 16k a year. Sold three years later for 110k after pouring work into it.

Paid cash to build micro home... Now we're in our fourth year of living cheap and saving.

Why not?


Posted by Count Chocula
Tier 5 and proud
Member since Feb 2009
63908 posts
Posted on 12/14/15 at 11:45 am to
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Partly
Some want to blame the Wall Street Banks for developing "creative" financing alternatives and packages so that people who make $50,000 in combined income can buy a $750,000 house... Heres the deal, if you tell Wall Street to get creative (like Barney Franks did), you better damn well believe that's exactly what they're gonna do.

And then when the blame game started after the melt down, old Barney developed Alzheimer's with the quickness.
Posted by Rico Tubbs
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
465 posts
Posted on 12/14/15 at 11:46 am to
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You can't find a move in ready home is south BR for less than $200K.



Obviously you've never been in the poor areas of South baton rouge. The run down part where most minorities actually live...where the crime rate is high and the part Lil boosie raps about. Those houses are typically below 100k.

Poor ppl move much more frequently chasing lower rent. This program is trying to allow poorer communities the opportunity to escape that by placing them in homes permanently. This would then bring a sense of stability where the kids wouldn't be transferring schools every other year as well as bring a sense of community rather than the "hey frick this place I'll be gone within a year anyway" attitude that comes with that way of living.

But again, keep hating the poor. It's strong on the board.
This post was edited on 12/14/15 at 11:49 am
Posted by Rico Tubbs
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
465 posts
Posted on 12/14/15 at 11:48 am to
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ETA, I see what you mean. If the loans are only allowed for houses in designated low-income areas for houses worth < $200K, then it isn't a bad policy.

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but keep hating the poor


Go frick yourself buddy.


Lol thanks.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18315 posts
Posted on 12/14/15 at 11:50 am to
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Bought a 130k house for 65k in college making 16k a year. Sold three years later for 110k after pouring work into it.

Paid cash to build micro home... Now we're in our fourth year of living cheap and saving.

Why not?



If you think low-income families are financially savvy like you then you are sadly mistaken. Majority of low-income families cannot be financially trusted with big purchases.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18315 posts
Posted on 12/14/15 at 11:52 am to
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Obviously you've never been in the poor areas of South baton rouge. The run down part where most minorities actually live...where the crime rate is high and the part Lil boosie raps about. Those houses are typically below 100k.

Poor ppl move much more frequently chasing lower rent. This program is trying to allow poorer communities the opportunity to escape that by placing them in homes permanently. This would then bring a sense of stability where the kids wouldn't be transferring schools every other year as well as bring a sense of community rather than the "hey frick this place I'll be gone within a year anyway" attitude that comes with that way of living.

But again, keep hating the poor. It's strong on the board.


I see what you are saying but "you can take the person out of the culcha, but you can't take the culcha out of the person".
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167510 posts
Posted on 12/14/15 at 11:55 am to
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"you can take the person out of the culcha, but you can't take the culcha out of the person".




You should see the shite "poor people" own or have financed from RAC, Aaron's etc. It amazes me sometimes when my guys do an eviction or something. There's a reason they're poor and it's not just due to being low income.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 12/14/15 at 11:55 am to
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his would then bring a sense of stability where the kids wouldn't be transferring schools every other year as well as bring a sense of community



If you think this is going to break that cycle then you are bat shite crazy. The reason they move is they are running from the landlord because they haven't paid their rent. Now they will just be getting foreclosed on.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18315 posts
Posted on 12/14/15 at 12:00 pm to
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You should see the shite "poor people" own or have financed from RAC, Aaron's etc. It amazes me sometimes when my guys do an eviction or something. There's a reason they're poor and it's not just due to being low income.


It's the opposite end of the spectrum with the upper-middle class income "wannabe's" who try to keep up with the Jones. I'm sure you get a ton of work off of those individuals.
This post was edited on 12/14/15 at 12:03 pm
Posted by Rico Tubbs
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
465 posts
Posted on 12/14/15 at 12:02 pm to
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If you think this is going to break that cycle then you are bat shite crazy. The reason they move is they are running from the landlord because they haven't paid their rent. Now they will just be getting foreclosed on.





Yea lets go with the pessimistic version of this and just group all poor ppl into one big demographic of criminals running from landlords.

Those poor old black ladies enjoy packing their stuff every 6 months and moving. I'm sure they get a thrill from it.
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167510 posts
Posted on 12/14/15 at 12:03 pm to
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I'm sure you get a ton of work off of those individuals.



Oh yea. Brand new boats, trucks, 4 wheelers, etc but now homeless. It's insanity to me but then again I think I am frugal as frick and should have probably been born into a Jewish family.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8020 posts
Posted on 12/14/15 at 12:06 pm to
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Yea lets go with the pessimistic version of this and just group all poor ppl into one big demographic of criminals running from landlords.

Those poor old black ladies enjoy packing their stuff every 6 months and moving. I'm sure they get a thrill from it.


You do realize that a policy extraordinarily similar to this was a major factor in the 2008 crash, right?
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18315 posts
Posted on 12/14/15 at 12:06 pm to
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Yea lets go with the pessimistic version of this and just group all poor ppl into one big demographic of criminals running from landlords.


It has nothing to do with being pessimistic and everything to do with reality. No one is keeping poor people poor, many of those who work hard enough are able to get out of their situation. What we are saying is giving a mass opportunity, like the one in the op, to low-income individuals is not going to fare well.
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 12/14/15 at 12:06 pm to
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but keep hating the poor and wanting them to waste money renting every month.


When the water heater goes out, how will they be able to afford to fix it? Or the roof leaks or the foundation sinks, or washing machine, or plumbing issues?

Renting is not necessarily the evil you make it out to be. It helps low income families not have to worry about major repairs they can't afford.
Posted by FredsGotSlacks
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2008
815 posts
Posted on 12/14/15 at 12:10 pm to
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3% of $250K is $7500 dollars.

You're going to have people putting down $7500 on a $250,000 house.

These people are ALL going to default! I mean is that part of the plan?

I put down 3.5 on a 260 k house in April and I have no problem paying my mortgage.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 12/14/15 at 12:10 pm to
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Those poor old black ladies enjoy packing their stuff every 6 months and moving



If they'd enjoy paying their rent/mortgage they wouldn't have to pack up their stuff and move.
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