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re: I need a history detective. Origin of term MFer is super racist?

Posted on 3/30/17 at 12:43 pm to
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 3/30/17 at 12:43 pm to
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For gods sake they tried to say the term crowbar was racist at some point.


This dude in my neighborhood.. If I see him outside, I will stop by and vice versa.. He refers to black people as crows.

This isn't meant to be a racist statement, I am not referring to black people as crows, I am just saying what someone I know, does.. Which is sort of related to this statement.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124070 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 12:43 pm to
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This was from a multi-millionnaire of Jamaican descent


I guess money can't buy IQ points
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 3/30/17 at 12:45 pm to
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72059 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 12:45 pm to
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As I heard it on radio, it goes back to blindfolding slaves to have unknowing incest to produce offspring with superior traits
What? Even if that is the origin, it has no relation to how it is used now. Plus, Scruffy highly doubts that is the case.

Posted by Darkknight
Member since Mar 2012
1415 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 12:45 pm to
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"The Oxford English Dictionary’s first citation of the word comes from the Texas Court of Appeals’ account of the 1889 trial of Levy v. State, where witnesses describe a defendant being called a “God damned mother-f—cking, bastardly son-of-a-bitch.”"

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"Though some folk etymologies suggest that the term was based on the experience of the African-American slave, there’s no hard evidence for this, either. According to this theory, the term was used to refer to “White slavemasters … who raped your mother in order to break the Black family down, physically and psychologically,” and also served “as a means to avoid calling your slavemaster your ‘father.’ ” However, according to Jesse Sheidlower, editor at large of the Oxford English Dictionary and author of The F-Word, “any kind of folk etymological explanation of motherfricker or motherfricking is not true” and “there’s no evidence of the term from slavery times and nothing to suggest that it ever was used in reference to slave masters.” While the first recorded instance of the word happens to be from an African-American, Sheidlower says “there's evidence of its use, even at early times, from whites as well.”"
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124070 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 12:50 pm to
The crowbar essentially dates back to Roman times, but these fricknuts tried to tie it back to Jim Crow.

They know no logic, only endless grievance.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
28049 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 12:58 pm to
Always trying to find more words or sayings to cry racism over.

Could we get a SJW or a BLM member to give us a new list of racist terms?? Mother fricker added.
Posted by TigerDik86
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2011
2982 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 12:59 pm to
Like.. Mother fricking Jones?
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 3/30/17 at 1:02 pm to
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As I heard it on radio, it goes back to blindfolding slaves to have unknowing incest to produce offspring with superior traits

Is this really true?


I seriously doubt that with how old the word "frick" is.
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frick is an obscene English-language word, which refers to the act of sexual intercourse and is also commonly used as an intensifier or to denote disdain. Its origin is obscure but is usually considered to be first attested to around 1475, although it may be considerably older. In modern usage, the term frick and its derivatives (such as fricker and fricking) can be used as a noun, a verb, an adjective, an interjection, or an adverb. There are many common phrases that employ the word, as well as compounds that incorporate it, such as motherfricker, frickwit and fricknut.


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From Wiki concerning Mfer

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The word dates back at least to the late 19th century, with a Texas court in 1889 recording a defendant being called a "God damned mother-fricking, bastardly son-of-a-bitch" and in 1917 a black U.S. soldier called his draft board "You low-down Mother frickers..." in a letter.


LINK
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
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Posted on 3/30/17 at 1:14 pm to
Posted by BiggerBear
Redbone Country
Member since Sep 2011
2923 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 1:45 pm to
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"Though some folk etymologies suggest that the term was based on the experience of the African-American slave, there’s no hard evidence for this . . .



From this article.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
17474 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 2:13 pm to
Everything is being turned into racist. Next thing you know, the sun will be called racist...
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
131365 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 2:18 pm to
This sounds like one of those narratives where there is maybe a very slight measure of truth and 99% embellished to support your homies narrative.
Posted by TU Rob
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2008
12737 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 2:28 pm to
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"For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge"


I always heard it was "Fornication Under Consent of King"
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124070 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 2:34 pm to
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quote: "For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge"

I always heard it was "Fornication Under Consent of King"


All of this is reverse engineering to make a nice story. Not based in truth.

The etymology of the word, IIRC, descends to us from the Germanic language.

Focka or Fokkelen, meaning, "to strike"


Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
68290 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 2:38 pm to
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Next thing you know, the sun will be called racist...




The sun makes white people darker. Not racist
Posted by TheGooner
Baton Rouwage
Member since Jul 2016
996 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 2:39 pm to
A few years ago when my oldest boy was in high school he comes home and tells me that his American History teacher (a black female) told the class that the term picnic was racist.

She said it came from southerners who would get together after church on Sundays a "pick a nig" for lynching.

Being an astute sensor of BS I went to google and discovered that it came from an Old French word PiqueNique which meant to have a pot luck supper.
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
17547 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 2:40 pm to
Sheesh, slave owners probably have more blood on their hands then any other Americans ever. What trashy, worthless, evil, despicable, ungodly and unamerican human beings
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
131365 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 2:42 pm to
White slave owners have no more and no less blood on their hands than any slave owners.

So basically every race has blood on their hands.
Posted by Festus
With Skillet
Member since Nov 2009
85005 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 2:47 pm to
That crazy old white dude that smacked the amber lamps strongsafety looking TPOS in the above caption sure as shite had blood on his hands.
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