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re: I might be asking a dumb question, but regarding old money southern elites

Posted on 6/14/14 at 6:32 pm to
Posted by CroakaBait
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Posted on 6/14/14 at 6:32 pm to
Any relation to Monsieur Calvin Candie?
Posted by Cracker
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Posted on 6/14/14 at 6:51 pm to
NB4sherman
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 6/14/14 at 6:51 pm to
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Fletch Lives


Sad what that place could be. Granted Shell repaired and preserved it, but prime location with the other two plantations so near by.

Ashland/Belle Hellene is the place in question.
Posted by Spankum
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Posted on 6/14/14 at 6:56 pm to
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Do many of the old money families who had ancestors in the southern planter aristocracy still live in the plantation mansions that their families built a long time ago?


typically, not...while a good number of the plantation homes still survive in south and central la, almost none are still owned by the origrinal families that built them...when the farm economy collapsed, most were sold and are now inhabited by folks that made their money in oil and gas, etc....the farmland is rented out to local farmers to work...
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 6/14/14 at 7:20 pm to
The Parlange family still has their ancestral home. I don't know if any of them still live there. Those houses are pretty uncomfortable by current standards. It's common to see an old mansion, and a modern house with all the conveniences off to the side where the family actually lives.
Posted by 777Tiger
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Posted on 6/14/14 at 7:24 pm to
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Those houses are pretty uncomfortable by current standards. It's common to see an old mansion, and a modern house with all the conveniences off to the side where the family actually lives.

I looked at buying one about 20 yrs. ago. Beautiful house in appearance, but the more I dug into it, it was going to cost me at least the purchase price to get up to my comfort standards.
Posted by goldenbadger08
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Posted on 6/14/14 at 7:26 pm to
No. fricking Yankee.
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 6/14/14 at 7:28 pm to
My cousins bought one and fixed it up for a weekend place-legit ballers, made a shite ton of money in the biomedical field. They kept the bottom two floors authentic and fixed up what used to be the attic as an apartment with AC, running water, etc.
Posted by PerceivedReality
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Posted on 6/14/14 at 7:31 pm to
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Since 1812. Suck it.
ETA: lease out the farmland
This post was edited on 6/14/14 at 7:33 pm
Posted by Corkfather
Houston
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Posted on 6/14/14 at 7:33 pm to
There are a lot of old money homes in Uptown New Orleans, etc. that are still occupied by the families that built them. They're not necessarily plantations but they are just as grand, if not more so. They aren't on large pieces of property now, but at one point they were.

A friend of mine when I was in high school lived in a beautiful antebellum mansion on State St., right off St. Charles Ave. There was even a cell under the house that had been used to punish slaves.
This post was edited on 6/14/14 at 7:34 pm
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 6/14/14 at 7:34 pm to
Also, remember that a lot of them were destroyed by Yankee agression. Ones that remained have varying reasons from traitors to family friends to political bargains.
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 6/14/14 at 7:36 pm to
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There was even a cell under the house that had been used to punish slaves


Depending on how eccentric, still are.


And true, some of the big houses in NOLA were just as much owned by plantation owners.
Posted by PerceivedReality
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Posted on 6/14/14 at 7:40 pm to
Family was in politics for generations. Ended with my grandfather. There were 7 other plantations built in the area for the kids of whatever great grandfather that was to me. Ours is the only one that has a direct descendant still in the family (my dad). I'm the only male so I get it by default. My dad was the oldest male so he got it.
Posted by PierPunk
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Posted on 6/14/14 at 7:47 pm to
Sold the house long long time ago, still hunt the land and lease out for farming. Some original buildings have been renovated and are still standing and in use
Posted by Corkfather
Houston
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Posted on 6/14/14 at 7:53 pm to
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And true, some of the big houses in NOLA were just as much owned by plantation owners.



Many of the neighborhoods like Faubourg Marigny, Faubourg Lafayette, Faubourg Livaudais, Milneburg, etc. are all named that way because they occupy the land of former plantations.

Many of the neighborhood boundaries in general were set by the boundaries of the plantations that once stood.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 6/14/14 at 8:03 pm to
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Ours was burned down.


That happened a lot.
Posted by PerceivedReality
South Cakkalakki
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Posted on 6/14/14 at 8:11 pm to
Ours burned in 1812. Rebuilt in 1814. We still have our land grant signed by Andrew Jackson (not uncommon in that time).
This post was edited on 6/14/14 at 8:12 pm
Posted by prostyleoffensetime
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 6/14/14 at 8:14 pm to
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That happened a lot.



Plantation homes seem to be extremely flammable.

Where I live, a lot of families still farm their home places, but hardly any of them have the original homes still standing and it's even more rare that the descendants of that family live on that land... shite load of commissaries still around though.
Posted by Corkfather
Houston
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Posted on 6/14/14 at 8:19 pm to
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Plantation homes seem to be extremely flammable.



They were mainly built of wood, with brick facade on only the front. Combine that with the fact that if your home caught fire there was no fire brigade coming to put it out.

Many were also destroyed by the Union Army as they drove South, raping and pillaging the land, homes, and residents.
This post was edited on 6/14/14 at 8:20 pm
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 6/14/14 at 8:19 pm to
The Mississippi people would be the ones to ask. The legit plantation homes were built there. There was some in AL and LA, but the awesome ones were along the Mississippi River.
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