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re: HVAC Experts - How do I know if I have a coil leak?

Posted on 5/9/17 at 9:10 pm to
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
12300 posts
Posted on 5/9/17 at 9:10 pm to
quote:

As you have discovered, R22 is very expensive. If they end up replacing the coils, make sure they convert the unit to 410.



Would R22 have been used on a 5 y/o house?
Posted by coolneal
Lakeland, TN
Member since Nov 2007
637 posts
Posted on 5/9/17 at 9:19 pm to
That's some bad advise ..

Is he a trane dealer? They are the most expensive to repair because they use proprietary parts. it seems like he's trying to push a new unit on you. Get another opinion or two. If your in the BR area try Duvall they worked on my coils and it didn't cost an arm and a leg.
Posted by Royal
God's Country
Member since Apr 2009
1003 posts
Posted on 5/9/17 at 9:36 pm to
I had my coil replaced about a month ago, and the labor was $260 fwiw
Posted by WPBTiger
Parts Unknown
Member since Nov 2011
30919 posts
Posted on 5/9/17 at 9:40 pm to
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It will run for 3-4 hours then (I assume freeze up) and stop. I can turn it off for an hour and it will start back.

We are moving and I do not want to spend an arse load of money on it


Check your drain. It may be clogged and the float switch may be activated. Over time, it slowly drains and unit will come back on.
Posted by Chuker
St George, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2015
7544 posts
Posted on 5/9/17 at 9:47 pm to
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$1800 for labor to swap out




Guy is a frick-stick. Call someone else and never do business with the dude again. Only way it could be 1800 in labor is if the coil is located in an extremely difficult place to work on (and possibly guarded by pit-bulls.) A change out should take around 3hrs and cost $350 ball park. The location will greatly influence cost to get replaced though.

As far as switching to Trane, Trane/American Standard is top notch. But Lennox is decent and fricking owes you another coil so take them up on it.

Oh, and If there is a leak in the system then 95% of time it is the coil. Some A/C guys won't even look anywhere else if there is indication of a leak somewhere. It's always the coil.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69059 posts
Posted on 5/9/17 at 9:49 pm to
If the choice is replace the coils or use a cheap fix that could possibly damage the coils (this product isn't supposed to be bad) I would choose the quick fix first since the worst case scenario just presents you with the other alternative.
Posted by Das_Wanda_kid
Member since Apr 2017
438 posts
Posted on 5/9/17 at 10:02 pm to
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Would R22 have been used on a 5 y/o house?



Ahh, I missed that. I wouldn't think so, but if it is $40 per pound it has to be R22. The conversion to 410 could cost about $2500. The prices point to R22. I do think you could find R22 on a 5year old, but not a 2 yr.
This post was edited on 5/9/17 at 10:06 pm
Posted by Bullfrog
Institutionalized but Unevaluated
Member since Jul 2010
56194 posts
Posted on 5/9/17 at 10:14 pm to
R22 from HVAC companies I've seen run $89-$129 a pound. Though $40 a pound would seem high for 410a IMHO.

AC warranty work after a year usually doesn't include freon and many units are 22+ pounds. That's where the warranty costs explode.
This post was edited on 5/9/17 at 10:18 pm
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
19815 posts
Posted on 5/9/17 at 10:22 pm to
Lennox units are known for leaks but not that soon
Posted by Das_Wanda_kid
Member since Apr 2017
438 posts
Posted on 5/9/17 at 10:31 pm to
I just looked up my invoice from last August. I paid $68 per pins on R22.

You either getting a really good deal or you are getting shafted.
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
7545 posts
Posted on 5/9/17 at 10:33 pm to
Low system pressure is not a diagnosis of a coil leak. Low pressure may be a symptom of a leak anywhere in the system, or an improperly charged system at installation (not terribly uncommon).

If a coil leak is suspected a leak test must be performed to diagnose it (soap test, N2, etc.).

Get a second opinion. If the system is, in fact, losing refrigerant you must diagnose the leaking component instead of shotgunning parts at it.



Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69059 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 9:08 am to
FWIW if you have a leaky unit, you can buy 25# containers of R22 online for $300.

No license needed, but if you want one, you can take an open book test to get one.


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