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re: How bad are most sales people?

Posted on 8/15/17 at 10:59 am to
Posted by Will Cover
St. Louis, MO
Member since Mar 2007
38533 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 10:59 am to
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maybe they researched your company and dont believe that you are a legit and qualified customer. Some companies get inundated with tire kickers and arent interested wasting their time with you.


I don't mind someone telling me no. But it hasn't even gotten this far. There is no way for them to determine at this point whether or not I have a chance to be successful or not.

Posted by Will Cover
St. Louis, MO
Member since Mar 2007
38533 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:01 am to
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Why would they want a jackleg to come in that has no financial investment in their product, and destroy a market their present distributor built for them? That person they messed over could come back and push another product and take them out of the market!


The products and/or brands that I am looking at have little to no representation in the market that I am going to sell them in.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
7309 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:03 am to
I guess it depends on the field. I do a lot of procurement for biological research supplies/equipment and my reps are for the most part very responsive.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78557 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:05 am to
I can only guess they are fat and happy, poorly- run or have determined you are inconsequential for some reason. I think we've all been there at some point or another. It's frustrating.
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
68300 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:05 am to
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I'm in sales, my customers love me. I can sell you something.





What do you sell? I might want to buy it
Posted by Will Cover
St. Louis, MO
Member since Mar 2007
38533 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:05 am to
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I can only guess they are fat and happy, poorly- run or have determined you are inconsequential for some reason. I think we've all been there at some point or another. It's frustrating.


I don't know enough about the internal structure of each of these organizations to properly comment, but I suspect you are right - it's one of those for sure.

Posted by Perrydawg
Middle Ga Area
Member since Jan 2014
4769 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:08 am to
I see this a lot with construction industry types. When I had gutters put on my home, I contacted three vendors to give quotes and only got a response back from one. We also needed some trees removed around the office because the drought last year wiped some of them out. Our business plan is to get at least three quotes so the CEO can approve them, but we only got one guy to call us back and quote the work. We might have paid a king's ransom but we had no way of knowing without having other competitive bids.
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
68300 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:10 am to
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 We might have paid a king's ransom but we had no way of knowing without having other competitive bids.


Because the same man owns all the companies secretly so he has a monopoly.

Just like coke and pepsi are owned by the same person.
Posted by MardiGrasCajun
Dirty Coast, MS
Member since Sep 2005
5355 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:12 am to
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Some companies possibly have representation in your market.

They probably already have dealers or distributors who have invested in stocking their products, training their dealers how to service the product, and are doing well for them in a certain area.

I have 4 hardware stores. One side of it I sell outdoor power equipment. I have a protected area for certain brands that I carry. In exchange I have to invest in stocking x amount of product, servicing the product, and keeping x amount of parts on hand. I also have to sell x amount of product each year.

Why would they want a jackleg to come in that has no financial investment in their product, and destroy a market their present distributor built for them? That person they messed over could come back and push another product and take them out of the market!


This, this, this!

I assume Will Cover is a rep seeking a new product. I have rep firms wanting to sell our product(s) in their area ALL THE TIME. If I have representation in your area already, then I don't need to discuss further representation. I have contracts with my current rep firms that gives them exclusive rights to our products in a designated territory. I will not trample on that contract and risk a lawsuit.
Posted by Will Cover
St. Louis, MO
Member since Mar 2007
38533 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:15 am to
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If I have representation in your area already, then I don't need to discuss further representation. I have contracts with my current rep firms that gives them exclusive rights to our products in a designated territory. I will not trample on that contract and risk a lawsuit.


Again, I don't mind being told no. However, this is still not the case for me. I understand where you are coming from, but to not acknowledge someone is just bad business.

Posted by Chuker
St George, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2015
7544 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:15 am to
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ksayetiger



You're over your head in this thread.

Go comment on a WYHI or a dog barking thread.
Posted by bigrob385series
B. Aura
Member since May 2014
2634 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:15 am to
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It seems customer service in all trades, industries, and businesses has gone down the shitter in general.
you have a lot of the younger generation coming up that have no loyalty and only care about the cheapest price...which i partially blame for this.
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
5261 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:15 am to
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We've been trying to get some work done to our building like new signs and whatnot and for some reason, it's like we have to chase people with money to get them to do it.

It's as if they don't want any business.


I needed a new sign for my business as well. I had to call six different sign companies and hire one from over an hour away. I actually had one company say he was too busy and didn't want to do it.

I am creating a sign company within the next five years if business is this great.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:26 am to
quote:

There is no way for them to determine at this point whether or not I have a chance to be successful or not.


Sure there is...they have your name, company name, how long you've been in business, etc....they've done their research, trust me.

They just arent interested in you.
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25418 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:26 am to
They're just holding out for the Glengarry leads. They know your arse is just jerking them around. You aren't really going to buy. You just like the attention.

This post was edited on 8/15/17 at 11:27 am
Posted by MardiGrasCajun
Dirty Coast, MS
Member since Sep 2005
5355 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:29 am to
quote:

Again, I don't mind being told no. However, this is still not the case for me. I understand where you are coming from, but to not acknowledge someone is just bad business.



I can completely understand your position but please understand our position, too. I get inundated with these types of requests. The worst I get hit is at a big expo/convention or shortly afterwards. The reps are like vultures especially if you have a good product. On a side note, I usually follow up anyway. I'm just letting you know why you may not get a response.
Posted by Will Cover
St. Louis, MO
Member since Mar 2007
38533 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:33 am to
quote:

I can completely understand your position but please understand our position, too.


quote:

I get inundated with these types of requests.


You're right. It's a part of business. It's also a great new way for an existing business to obtain new business, providing there aren't any restrictions or agreements already in place. And even if there is, a courtesy e-mail (since they already have my e-mail address) stating that I am not "accepted" would be sufficient. Heck, if they get as many inquiries, one would think they have a "standard" rejection letter that looks customized but doesn't require a whole lot of thought behind creating a new one every time.



Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:34 am to
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a courtesy e-mail (since they already have my e-mail address) stating that I am not "accepted" would be sufficient


you sound needy
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
82018 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 11:41 am to
fricking pisses me off when you try to contact a contractor or vendor multiple times and they don't get back with you.
Posted by Anonymous95
Member since Sep 2014
2076 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 12:03 pm to
I think it depends. I make 100% of my household income on commissions. I call prospects back and stay engaged in a sales cycle until it's over (win or lose).

I've also worked at companies where sales people are perfectly fine with living off a company provided base salary. Those are usually not the best sales people.
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