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re: His name is Walter Palmer. His name is Walter Palmer.

Posted on 7/30/15 at 1:44 pm to
Posted by carlsoda
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Posted on 7/30/15 at 1:44 pm to
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justifiable cause


Paid for a hunt. Seems justifiable enough. His guides were definitely at fault and perhaps him too if he knew. Definitely should be punished...
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
36417 posts
Posted on 7/30/15 at 1:45 pm to
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Just because you don't agree with hunting of exotics doesn't make it wrong.


Generally the regulated hunting of exotics isn't objectively wrong, although it may offend some people. In this particular case, it was wrong. This was not an animal legally allowed to be hunted and killed, and they knew that.

Conversely, I see why some people are fed up with this guy being crucified by the court of public opinion.
This post was edited on 7/30/15 at 1:46 pm
Posted by carlsoda
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 7/30/15 at 1:47 pm to
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This was not an animal legally allowed to be hunted and killed, and they knew that


I guess innocent until proven guilty doesn't exist. So quick to get offended people are.

The dude is a piece of shite who has done it before with a black bear, he should be punished. But that punishment should fit the crime.
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
49999 posts
Posted on 7/30/15 at 1:47 pm to
No, it's not the end of the world for you, but it is for other sentient creatures because some asswipe dentist wanted a trophy.

My empathy extends to most sentient creatures. Might be arbitrary, but I don't care.

As for his public punishment... Welcome to the Information Age.
Posted by carlsoda
B Rah
Member since Dec 2009
5776 posts
Posted on 7/30/15 at 1:49 pm to
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My empathy extends to most sentient creatures.


Fair enough
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Might be arbitrary

Most definitely but I am not faulting you for it.
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As for his public punishment... Welcome to the Information Age


Doesn't make it right... Just like the killing of that lion...
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
49999 posts
Posted on 7/30/15 at 1:50 pm to
As is said for so many things on this board... Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
36417 posts
Posted on 7/30/15 at 1:50 pm to
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I guess innocent until proven guilty doesn't exist. So quick to get offended people are.


You can infer from the facts that at least the guides knew this. You said that yourself in another post, not sure why you're taking issue with it.
Posted by TigerPox
Member since Oct 2010
33333 posts
Posted on 7/30/15 at 1:51 pm to
I am all about this thread. Social media and the internet in general can get scary at times. People can be psycho behind a keyboard.
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
49999 posts
Posted on 7/30/15 at 1:52 pm to
"If you're gonna be dumb, you gotta be tough" - Roger Wade
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
Good Ole Rocky Top Tennessee
Member since Jan 2010
21644 posts
Posted on 7/30/15 at 1:52 pm to
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, ruining his business and causing his family grief I don't... It isn't the publics job imo


Why not? His business is built upon the public. People who deal with him should know what kind of a person he is. Isn't that the best part about free enterprise is that we do not have to deal with people like this if we choose not to do so?
Posted by carlsoda
B Rah
Member since Dec 2009
5776 posts
Posted on 7/30/15 at 1:55 pm to
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You can infer from the facts that at least the guides knew this. You said that yourself in another post, not sure why you're taking issue with it.


Not taking any issues with it. The guides for sure knew... They should be punished in their country however the judicial system works. As for the dentist we can assume but we don't know and he should be innocent till proven otherwise. Still think he is a POS but thats where my give a shite ends
Posted by carlsoda
B Rah
Member since Dec 2009
5776 posts
Posted on 7/30/15 at 1:58 pm to
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Why not?


he might be a great dentist. People might feel uncomfortable going to him because they will get shamed too. People that are offended don't need to go but why shame others from going who dgaf and only want their dental work done
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People who deal with him should know what kind of a person he is.


We don't know how he is professionally actually, unless you have seen him personally.

Anyne can choose to not go to someone because their perceptions. Is it the publics job to shame other people to not go to him?
Posted by WITNESS23
Member since Feb 2010
13722 posts
Posted on 7/30/15 at 3:09 pm to
As a white, privileged male I hate these "big game hunters" it's not a sport to pay tons of money to drive out and shoot an animal that you won't eat or are overpopulated.

I understand everyone's point but I just don't think we should kill animals like that for sport. Just my two cents
Posted by Emiliooo
Member since Jun 2013
5148 posts
Posted on 7/30/15 at 3:37 pm to
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As a white, privileged male I hate these "big game hunters" it's not a sport to pay tons of money to drive out and shoot an animal that you won't eat or are overpopulated.

I'm in the same boat as you. I draw a very fine line on hunting these animals, if it's necessary to kill one for the sake of the species, then I'm all for it. But how can someone make that distinction, especially when there are over 600 lions alone hunted a year? I just don't like the idea of hunting a species that's on the edge of endangerment.

I also don't see the sport in taking a 50 cal to an elephant. But what do I know
Posted by RUKidding
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
1070 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 9:03 am to
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As a white, privileged male I hate these "big game hunters" it's not a sport to pay tons of money to drive out and shoot an animal that you won't eat or are overpopulated.


This bald headed dentist Nick Rauber could not disagree with you more.

Posted by Isabelle
Member since Jul 2012
2726 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 9:28 am to
Advocate today mentions a doctor on the East coast who illegally shot a lion in Africa with bow and arrow. This one is a gynecological oncologist (lot of $ to be made in cancer). Maybe they are friends!
Posted by RUKidding
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
1070 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 9:32 am to
Is he bald headed also?
Posted by 68wDoc68w
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2014
1869 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 9:36 am to
i just want to know who knew this lion even existed before this happened.

and its even more funny how the Zimbabwe ( however you spell it) people and government didn't know who everyone was talking about when they were asked about "cecil"

it deflections from the media. They don't want to cover the planed parenthood story and iran nuke deal.
This post was edited on 8/3/15 at 9:38 am
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 8/3/15 at 9:38 am to
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Have an upvote
Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
11292 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 9:41 am to
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it deflections from the media. They don't want to cover the planed parenthood story and iran nuke deal.


You think the american media has that much influence over twitter as an international communication tool?
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