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re: Heroin laced with elephant tranquilizers is hitting the streets

Posted on 8/26/16 at 10:59 am to
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 8/26/16 at 10:59 am to
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The restrictions on Pain Management Doctors has got a lot of people that were probably using some form of OxyContin,now probably are using whatever they can find.Probably Fentanyl or Heroin.


Unfortunately, at least here in Kentucky, a lot of doctors with Pain Management clinics 5-10 years ago before prescription restrictions were handing pills out like candy for "chronic pain" that didn't need Oxycontin to treat. It was far, far too easy to get and in massive amounts (like 90 day supplies).

It sucks for people with chronic issues that legitimately need pain medication, but they had to do something.
This post was edited on 8/26/16 at 11:00 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/26/16 at 11:06 am to
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How should we deal with it different than what we're doing?

i think the biggest thing is a mental/framing issue

just look at the responses on page one about junkies. this is a real oroblem b/c we have to treat addiction issues as a legitimate health-psychological issue and not a criminal issue or where we just discard these people as almost non-persons

but more specifically, the medical field legitimately created a lot of this opiate boom. now i'm not saying that they're legally-civilly liable, but that entire system literally created this mess. and the government doesn't want to treat the issues and just wants to be like "oh nothing is wrong with our system" and is making it worse and making heroin the economic option.

it's just pure fricking insanity

all we do is ignore the issue, refuse to treat it as an issue, and then try to use random band-aids that just exacerbate the problem and create all new ones.
Posted by Phideaux
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Posted on 8/26/16 at 11:18 am to
It is illegal places like China are the source of the raw compound they then make pills or press pills to look like a regular generic 5 mg oxycodone pill. People buy them assuming that's what it is and die from OD
Posted by tidalmouse
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 8/26/16 at 11:33 am to
Sorry to hear that Saint.A guy I graduated H.S with OD'd 3 months ago from a Speed-Ball.

quote:

It sucks for people with chronic issues that legitimately need pain medication, but they had to do something.


I agree.They closed 2 Pain Management Doctors down in the last 3 months in the N.E. AL city i reside.One was my former Doctor.She had me taking Dilaudid at the time of my Surgery.

That stuff was hell coming off of.

You're right in that it got out of control for several years.There were lots of opiates on the street.
This post was edited on 8/26/16 at 11:38 am
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27305 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 12:01 pm to
I've been a big fan of regular heroin for a while... but one day I was like you know what would make this heroin even better? Elephant tranquilizers.

Glad they are finally doing it. I haven't been this excited since Taco Bell used my idea a taco shell made of Doritos.
Posted by AjaxFury
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Posted on 8/26/16 at 7:18 pm to
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How should we deal with it different than what we're doing?


For long term pain mgmt, transition into cannabis indica for primary pain relief...with smaller doses of Vicodin for occasional breakthrough-pain.

This should be an option, period for those with documented health conditions from trauma regardless of what state they live in.

If the patient keeps it under around 40 mg a day of opiates, they can usually avoid physical dependency.
Posted by sgallo3
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Member since Sep 2008
24747 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 7:20 pm to
thinning out the herd...
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