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re: Here's the one open carry video i side with the gun holder

Posted on 1/13/16 at 11:49 am to
Posted by Barf
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Posted on 1/13/16 at 11:49 am to
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Would you video it so you can become internet famous?


No. The second that cop didn't move along after I told him I wasn't giving him any ID/permit I probably would have just walked away. I don't blame the dude, he as right and the cops were wrong. I don't understand how or why there is a debate.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 1/13/16 at 11:50 am to
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watch the second video. He makes some good points about being worried about someone open carrying and real crime in the hood.


I fully support his right to open carry and I hope he open carries on a daily basis. This is a simple case of bad gun owner/open carry PR. Show him your license and be done with it. If they harass him after that, then I fully support him filming it and making a huge scene.
Posted by Barf
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Posted on 1/13/16 at 11:53 am to
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who wants to open carry. I would want to conceal carry. I would want to fly under the radar.


Some people can't get a concealed carry license for a variety of different reasons. I would rather carry illegally than donate my finger prints but I digress.

If you stuck your dick in crazy and when you wised up she decided to make up some bullshite and file a TRO you can kiss every getting a concealed carry permit good bye. So for you it would either be open carry, or no carry. You choose.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 1/13/16 at 11:55 am to
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Not sure if they are one in the same, but who wants to open carry. I would want to conceal carry. I would want to fly under the radar.


If I felt like I could be in a situation where needed a full sized weapon with a tac light and as many rounds as possible, I would. If he has to go through bad neighborhoods daily, I fully support and encourage open carry.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 11:56 am to
I have an issue with people like the guy open carrying. Instead of using the situation to educate the person that called the police on him he turns around and just makes an arse of himself and closes the mind of the individual that called the police.

Show your pistol permit to calm the situation down and then I am sure the police would have told that person who called them that it was perfectly legal for the man to be doing what he was doing.
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 1/13/16 at 11:57 am to
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This is a simple case of bad gun owner/open carry PR. Show him your license and be done with it.

I don't see why this is such a big deal to people.
Posted by Barf
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Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 1/13/16 at 11:57 am to
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If he has to go through bad neighborhoods daily, I fully support and encourage open carry.



But you don't support his legal right to not hand over a permit? That's kind of silly, don't you think?
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 1/13/16 at 12:03 pm to
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But you don't support his legal right to not hand over a permit? That's kind of silly, don't you think?

I support his right to do that 100%. As I've stated, ad nauseam, it looks bad for all people that want to open carry (which I also fully support) when people like that are difficult with the public as well as police. As someone stated, it's a missed opportunity to educate the ignorant masses.
Posted by Barf
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Posted on 1/13/16 at 12:03 pm to
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nstead of using the situation to educate the person that called the polic


Did someone call the cops? I don't think anyone from subway called the police, I could be wrong.


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Show your pistol permit to calm the situation down


It's not your job to make the police calm down. Cops can't just go around demanding ID. The "if you have nothing to hide, comply" mentality has the potential to cause more harm that good.
Posted by Barf
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Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 1/13/16 at 12:05 pm to
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As someone stated, it's a missed opportunity to educate the ignorant masses.


Educate whom? The cops clearly knew that guy had zero obligation to even entertain their conversation much less hand over ID. So who would he be educating? Would that responsibility not fall on the police? If someone called the police shouldn't it be the police officers job to tell the person who called that open carry is not a crime and to not waste police time in the future?
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 1/13/16 at 12:08 pm to
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All he had to do was hand over his permit and everything would have been fine
Is a permit required for open carry in CT?
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134845 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 12:15 pm to
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Educate whom?

The rest of the people in the store and the person who called the cops. If you have a complaint, file it with the PD.

quote:

If someone called the police shouldn't it be the police officers job to tell the person who called that open carry is not a crime and to not waste police time in the future?

All he had to do is show him his ID, and the cop can clearly tell the manager that it's perfectly legal and they can't do anything about it. Problem solved. I know y'all think he's making some sort of righteous stand but it's giving people who open carry a black eye.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134845 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 12:16 pm to
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Is a permit required for open carry in CT?

I believe someone in the thread said yes.

Posted by mmonro3
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2013
3920 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 12:16 pm to
Open carry is legal. Im a LA resident so I can pretty much always open carry. So im a douche for following the law?
Posted by LSUwag
Florida man
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 1/13/16 at 12:23 pm to
He called the officers "dickheads" They should have arrested him for Disorderly Conduct (if such a statute exists in that state).
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 12:25 pm to
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It's not your job to make the police calm down. Cops can't just go around demanding ID. The "if you have nothing to hide, comply" mentality has the potential to cause more harm that good.




Well the CT State police have a memo on how to deal with open carry of a handgun. If you refuse to show your ID and permit you are subject to arrest for interfering with an officer. CGS 53a-167a
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 12:26 pm to
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Is a permit required for open carry in CT?


For a handgun, yes.
Posted by JamalSanders
On a boat
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 1/13/16 at 12:40 pm to
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but who wants to open carry.


In certain situations I will open carry, such as in the summer when I don't want to wear a jacket but still have to work in a tucked-in oxford.
Posted by Old Sarge
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 1/13/16 at 12:47 pm to
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He called the officers "dickheads" They should have arrested him for Disorderly Conduct (if such a statute exists in that state).



At that point it was obvious he was very upset that the officers didn't respond in kind to his confrontational behavior.

The way he talked and raised his voice made it clear that he was NOT just there to order subway. He was there to confront people and make trouble.
Posted by Barf
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Member since Feb 2015
3727 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 12:52 pm to
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The way he talked and raised his voice made it clear that he was NOT just there to order subway. He was there to confront people and make trouble


Oh, well I guess that settles it.
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