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re: Helmet Cam Catches Moment Car Turns In Front of Motorcycle Doing 97 MPH
Posted on 9/8/14 at 12:11 pm to Black n Gold
Posted on 9/8/14 at 12:11 pm to Black n Gold
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You're responses are so professional.
I'd focus on that instead of the fact that you're ignorant of the law too.
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 12:12 pm to Darth_Vader
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The driver turned in front of the bike but the bike was going far too fast.
Here's my problem with motorcycles - it is natural for the human brain to not process them as vehicles on the road - more like bicycles or pedestrians - on the interstate, everything is fine - either I'm passing the bike(s) or it (they) is passing me - I concentrate to make sure I don't lose them in the blind spots and everything is fine.
It is the intersectional stuff that I have problems with - a few months ago, I turned left in front of a bike - it was early morning, we both had lights on - we both had the green, but I didn't have the arrow.
Now, he was going slow and I was going slow - he didn't have to lay the bike down or anything like that, but I would have given a car the right-of-way (I believe) - I actually didn't realize what I had done until it was over.
But, I do actively concentrate when I realize a bike is in the area - for this very reason.
Posted on 9/8/14 at 12:13 pm to Hermit Crab
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*i made the 300 feet up.
you were pretty spot on. at 97mph you cover nearly 150ft a second..thats 2 seconds.
Posted on 9/8/14 at 12:14 pm to LNCHBOX
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Then you're a moron. You have to pay attention when turning.
How fast would the motorcycle have to be going to not be the other driver's fault 120? 150?
Posted on 9/8/14 at 12:15 pm to CAD703X
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you were pretty spot on. at 97mph you cover nearly 150ft a second..thats 2 seconds.
That still doesn't absolve the driver of not seeing the bike. It did not appear that the sight lines were obstructed, so there really is no excuse other than not paying attention.
This is not me absolving the rider of his terrible decision to go that fast, before yall accuse me of that.
Posted on 9/8/14 at 12:15 pm to LNCHBOX
People pull out in front of cars all the time. If the idiot wasn't going 100 mph, he wouldn't be dead.
Posted on 9/8/14 at 12:15 pm to buffbraz
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How fast would the motorcycle have to be going to not be the other driver's fault 120? 150?
As fast as light. Only then would the driver be exonerated because he truly wouldn't have seen the bike.
Posted on 9/8/14 at 12:15 pm to buffbraz
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How fast would the motorcycle have to be going to not be the other driver's fault 120? 150?
Never, you should always pay attention before you cross a lane of traffic IMO.
Posted on 9/8/14 at 12:16 pm to LNCHBOX
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'd handle it just fine.
bullshite
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It's not that hard if you're paying attention. That driver clearly wasn't.
bullshite.
go outside right now (i'll wait).
have a friend with a bike go up the road 300 feet.
then decide if you think that object is far enough away that you can make a quick turn.
short story: asshat wasnt going 100 MPH down the road and he has time to react to the car turning.
second, going half that speed means he would have only been maybe 150 feet away and the driver would never have turned in front of him at that distance.
Posted on 9/8/14 at 12:16 pm to TH03
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People pull out in front of cars all the time.
Irrelevant.
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If the idiot wasn't going 100 mph, he wouldn't be dead.
So I guess all the bikes that get killed from people pulling out when they aren't speeding just don't count for that...
Posted on 9/8/14 at 12:17 pm to Darth_Vader
Posted on 9/8/14 at 12:17 pm to Darth_Vader
Gotta love the mom's comment telling car drivers to please slow down. WTF? Motorcycles are a lot smaller than cars. They are physically more difficult to see. They offer virtually no protection in the event of an accident....But, car drivers need to slow down. Yeh, we should also probably all wear bullet proof vests so that criminals will have less chance of killing us with a gun. Maybe we should limit the height of buildings and bridges so that dumbass who fall off of them won't die.
Mom goes on to say "I know he was going fast, but he loved speed..." I guess that makes it alright then, right? Not his fault because he just loved going fast.
I see crap like this guy almost everyday going to and from work. Cyclists weaving between traffic, even cars side by side and on the shoulder. Then when one dies, there will be a group of idiots out there putting flowers and crosses out and begging people to watch out for motorcycles...What they should be saying is watch out for fricking idiots who happen to drive motorcycles. And no, I am not saying all who ride them are idiots, but a small percentage are and I don't feel sorry for what happens to them.
Mom goes on to say "I know he was going fast, but he loved speed..." I guess that makes it alright then, right? Not his fault because he just loved going fast.
I see crap like this guy almost everyday going to and from work. Cyclists weaving between traffic, even cars side by side and on the shoulder. Then when one dies, there will be a group of idiots out there putting flowers and crosses out and begging people to watch out for motorcycles...What they should be saying is watch out for fricking idiots who happen to drive motorcycles. And no, I am not saying all who ride them are idiots, but a small percentage are and I don't feel sorry for what happens to them.
Posted on 9/8/14 at 12:17 pm to CAD703X
We're just not going to see eye to eye here. I always err on the side of caution when crossing traffic. I'd have handled it just fine.
Posted on 9/8/14 at 12:17 pm to LNCHBOX
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It's not that hard if you're paying attention. That driver clearly wasn't.
It was probably more like the driver saw the bike, noticed he was way off in the distance, and felt he had the space and time to make the turn. I doubt the fact that the biker was going 100 mph was even possible for the driver to know. It's hard to judge speed if they are coming straight at you.
The driver could have acted more defensively and waited, which is why the biker doesn't get 100% of the blame. But he certainly gets most of it.
Posted on 9/8/14 at 12:18 pm to Darth_Vader
Just Damn!
Posted on 9/8/14 at 12:19 pm to LNCHBOX
Well that's completely different. A bike going the speed limit would be much closer to the car turning in front of him.
Turning in front of a bike a few hundred feet away when you have no idea he's going 100 is not the same.
Turning in front of a bike a few hundred feet away when you have no idea he's going 100 is not the same.
Posted on 9/8/14 at 12:19 pm to Boudreaux35
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Gotta love the mom's comment telling car drivers to please slow down. WTF?
cuz its the CAR that was clearly going fast.
yep, i'm sure that car was taking that right turn at 100 mph.
Posted on 9/8/14 at 12:19 pm to GRTiger
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The driver could have acted more defensively and waited, which is why the biker doesn't get 100% of the blame. But he certainly gets most of it.
I completely agree. And I've said nothing to the contrary (second sentence not specifically for you).
Posted on 9/8/14 at 12:20 pm to TH03
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Well that's completely different. A bike going the speed limit would be much closer to the car turning in front of him.
Who's to say the person wouldn't have turned in front of the biker regardless? Obviously it happens. So you can't say if he'd have gone slower this wouldn't have happened.
Posted on 9/8/14 at 12:21 pm to LNCHBOX
im pretty sure there arent speed limits in europe .
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