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re: Health Etiquette: how to tell someone their diet sucks

Posted on 3/1/14 at 12:08 pm to
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 3/1/14 at 12:08 pm to
Tell him to get on Shakeology and T-25. He'll be better shape than 70% of the office within a year.
Posted by just1dawg
Virginia
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 3/1/14 at 12:16 pm to
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Have y'all seen the guy at the Nutri store off Airline/Bluebonnet says he lost 175 pounds in 32 weeks


Losing 5.5 lbs per week isn't impossible if you start off fat enough and you're dedicated enough. Generally I think that only happens with some kind of surgery, though.
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 3/1/14 at 12:21 pm to
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Losing 5.5 lbs per week isn't impossible if you start off fat enough and you're dedicated enough. Generally I think that only happens with some kind of surgery, though.



Even with bariatric surgery that is incredibly fast.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 3/1/14 at 12:24 pm to
Almost 22 pounds a month for 8 months doesn't seem healthy.
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
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Posted on 3/1/14 at 12:28 pm to
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Have y'all seen the guy at the Nutri store off Airline/Bluebonnet says he lost 175 pounds in 32 weeks

That's not healthy and harder to keep off. Good for him though, that's hard to do even with surgery.
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 3/1/14 at 12:29 pm to
It talks about he followed their supplement/food regimen to a T and now he the manager of that store
Posted by jordan21210
Member since Apr 2009
13382 posts
Posted on 3/1/14 at 12:35 pm to
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Shakeology


What is that, why do people think it's awesome, and how is it any different than any other protein shake?
This post was edited on 3/1/14 at 12:37 pm
Posted by Dr Rosenrosen
Member since May 2006
3336 posts
Posted on 3/1/14 at 12:39 pm to
Weight loss is simple:

1. Consume 2200 calories/day
2. Limit alcohol and fried foods
3. Eliminate soft drinks completely (even diet)
4. Drink lots of water, tea, coffee
5. Protein and fiber is essential
6. Exercise 10-20 min/day

I went from 254 to 207 in 9 months. And trust me on #3.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 3/1/14 at 12:49 pm to
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What is that, why do people think it's awesome, and how is it any different than any other protein shake?



Well, it just makes eating healthy simple. If you want to lose weight AND be healthy, you need your proteins, carbs, and fats (yes, fats). Shakeology just makes it simple to get all of it in one serving. It's not a "protein shake". It's a carbs/fats/protein shake.

Full Disclosure: I don't drink Shakeology. I make my own shake, and I TRY to make my shakes like Shakeology, but my concoctions don't even come close. I'm going to get on Shakeology soon, though.

But, this guy needs more than diet. He needs exercise. T25 has modified moves that allows everyone to participate. Of course, everyone should consult their physician before taking on an exercise routine. Also, it's important to consult with your doctor about any changes in diet if you are on medication.

ETA: I've said it before, but I'm proud of saying it. Before Thanksgiving, I weighed 208 pounds. In two months I lost over 25 pounds. Today, I weigh 160 pounds, and I'm in great shape.

I know I wasn't severely overweight, but I think anyone can do it if they are willing to make the right changes. It's tough. I still crave a big hamburger. I sometimes wish I could eat some fries. I miss Taco Bell. But, you just have to stay disciplined. Besides, healthy food can taste really good.
This post was edited on 3/1/14 at 12:53 pm
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43299 posts
Posted on 3/1/14 at 12:55 pm to
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1. Consume 2200 calories/day


I'm glad that worked for you. In my personal experience, at 2200 calories I gain weight even with exercise.. and I'm at 260. 2000 is maintenance for me. It kinda sucks because I get told I should eat more but my personal experiences say otherwise.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 3/1/14 at 12:57 pm to
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I'm glad that worked for you. In my personal experience, at 2200 calories I gain weight even with exercise.. and I'm at 260. 2000 is maintenance for me. It kinda sucks because I get told I should eat more but my personal experiences say otherwise.



I have to consume around 2,700 calories a day to maintain my weight. It's crazy. If I want to gain weight, I have to eat 3,000 to 3,300 calories per day.
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
17823 posts
Posted on 3/1/14 at 12:58 pm to
quote:

1. Consume 2200 calories/day
2. Limit alcohol and fried foods
3. Eliminate soft drinks completely (even diet)
4. Drink lots of water, tea, coffee
5. Protein and fiber is essential
6. Exercise 10-20 min/day

All good advice. The keys are to limit liquid sugar calories (eliminate soft drinks and fruit juices altogether), increase fiber, and exercise. It is also critical to not skip meals. Breakfast is essential, and ideally it should contain high protein.

ETA: Like someone else has said, I practice 2000 calories instead of 2200.
This post was edited on 3/1/14 at 1:01 pm
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 3/1/14 at 12:59 pm to
I'm at about 1700 a day right now but way I've been working/working out I've been burning 2000+ a day
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43299 posts
Posted on 3/1/14 at 1:01 pm to
I'm about to go back to working weekdays and be in a good routine for the next couple of months. I'm planning to have good, consistent workouts and all. I should shed some more weight. I really think my job holds me back some because my sleeping patterns are so crazy and I can't get into a routine. I'd be willing to bet my horrible sleep patterns and lack of sleep in general causes my hormone levels to go nuts.
This post was edited on 3/1/14 at 1:02 pm
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 3/1/14 at 1:02 pm to
I've hit the gym twice a day for about 3 weeks now, going at about 3:30 in morning till 5 and then from 5 in evening till 6 and it's helped.
I drink a protein shake in morning mixed with almond milk and same in evening so my only real meal is lunch
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43299 posts
Posted on 3/1/14 at 1:04 pm to
Jesus. 3:30 in the morning? You're crazy.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 3/1/14 at 1:08 pm to
Dedicated

I was waking up at 5 for work anyway and going in morning I can get all my lifting/core done with no one inside. Then in the evening I go and do all of my cardio. Probably why I'm running 60+ miles a month now
Posted by CroakaBait
Gulf Coast of the Land Mass
Member since Nov 2013
3974 posts
Posted on 3/1/14 at 1:18 pm to
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Do you get jitters and shite or no?


CLA definitely speeds me up, and I'm a skinny little shite. I normally avoid coffee when I take it, cause the combo makes me feel like I can run through brick walls. Not good when dealing with pissy high school students on a daily basis. Don't want to end up on TD for choke-slamming some 17-year old.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 3/1/14 at 1:20 pm to
I take CLA along with a BCAA and I haven't noticed a difference
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43299 posts
Posted on 3/1/14 at 1:24 pm to
CLA should not be causing jitters or any energy spikes unless you take a brand that adds stimulants/thermogenics. CLA itself is just linoleic acid, an Omega-6 fatty acid. It helps with metabolic processes but it should not be stimulating you.

LINK

also, as an interesting aside:
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Contemporary American society is one that is arguably different than previous generations. Contemporary Americans are generally deficient in consumption of CLA, which is mostly due to the changes that have occurred in the practices of feeding cattle. Since CLA comes primarily from meat and dairy products, changes in the feeding habits of cattle would have a great impact on CLA, which have led to a decline in the content of CLA in meat and dairy products.

For optimal CLA production, cows need to graze on grass rather than be artificially fattened in feed lots [19]. Studies and research findings have shown that the meat form grass-fed cows contain up to four times as much CLA as their non-grass-fed counterparts [15]. Today's dairy products have only about one third of the CLA content they used to have before 1960 [15].
This post was edited on 3/1/14 at 1:26 pm
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