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re: Having Gun Discussion On Facebook W/ A Friend
Posted on 8/27/15 at 4:59 pm to magildachunks
Posted on 8/27/15 at 4:59 pm to magildachunks
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I've found that dogs keep intruders out your house better than guns do.
You can't predict what's going to happen in the next 30 days in your own life, but you presume to tell me what I will need over the course of my life to not be a helpless victim in the face of evil.
People who are afraid of guns are telling us we need to turn ours in, register them, reduce their effectiveness, etc, and their reason for this is that there are a seemingly increasing number of psychos out there looking to kill as many random people as possible. That is backwards lunacy.
If we were in the pre-gunpowder era and some psycho was going around swording people to death, would your solution be to de-sword his potential victims?
Nobody has any answers for random violence. Get over it.
This post was edited on 8/27/15 at 5:01 pm
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Posted on 8/27/15 at 5:00 pm to uway
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You are not man enough
I'm not a man at all, but I sure am glad my fiancé doesn't measure the size of his dick by a gun. And he's even a veteran.
Posted on 8/27/15 at 5:01 pm to magildachunks
No, they don't. You see they understand confirmation bias. It's easy enough to point out the flaws and dishonesty in junk studies funded and published by know gun-control groups.
Posted on 8/27/15 at 5:01 pm to BamaAcadien
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I'm not a man at all, but I sure am glad my fiancé doesn't measure the size of his dick by a gun. And he's even a veteran.
You're not lady enough to leave the male anatomy out of your public conversations. I feel bad for your fiancé.
Posted on 8/27/15 at 5:02 pm to uway
Yes, because I was the one that asserted owning a gun confirmed your manhood in some way. Wait, that was you.
Not to mention telling someone you don't know to go f*ck themselves because they have a different politician opinion of you. You're obviously a true gentleman and prize yourself.
Not to mention telling someone you don't know to go f*ck themselves because they have a different politician opinion of you. You're obviously a true gentleman and prize yourself.
This post was edited on 8/27/15 at 5:07 pm
Posted on 8/27/15 at 5:02 pm to USAF Hart
There is no gun problem only a problem with the human condition.
More food for thought.
Man shoots another man we blame the gun.
Man shoots beloved lion people go nuts and want to lynch the man.
More food for thought.
Man shoots another man we blame the gun.
Man shoots beloved lion people go nuts and want to lynch the man.
Posted on 8/27/15 at 5:02 pm to magildachunks
So the general consensus is that we need to respect the 2nd amendment because we all have the right to bear arms, but we don't want to afford the same rights to a certain individuals because they cannot obtain a weapon with a legal background check. You can't have your cake and eat it too people. You need to be one way or the other. If you have a right to bear arms, so does every other red blooded american (criminal or not). That's the american way right?
Posted on 8/27/15 at 5:05 pm to USAF Hart
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So the general consensus is that we need to respect the 2nd amendment because we all have the right to bear arms, but we don't want to afford the same rights to a certain individuals because they cannot obtain a weapon with a legal background check. You can't have your cake and eat it too people. You need to be one way or the other. If you have a right to bear arms, so does every other red blooded american (criminal or not). That's the american way right?
Correct. And if you don't want to have shootouts while you're at church, the movies, at school, then you're obviously unamerican and a socialist.
Posted on 8/27/15 at 5:07 pm to Capital Cajun
It's just a dumb argument all the way around. If you take away guns from people, they will just find the next weapon to kill someone. You can see the writing on the wall. It's kind of like going through the years of "killer dogs". In the 80s it was German Shepherds, the 90's it was Rotts, and now it's pitbulls. So guns stop killing people, then it will be knives, after knives are banned, it will be swords, then something like nail guns. If someone wants to kill someone, there isn't much that can be done to stop it. Sure mental illness is a thing, but why are we so quick to throw mental illness out there in a mass shooting, but when a woman kills her kids because "god told her to", we lose our shite and think mental illness in that case is a bullshite cover up?
Posted on 8/27/15 at 5:08 pm to USAF Hart
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So the general consensus is that we need to respect the 2nd amendment because we all have the right to bear arms, but we don't want to afford the same rights to a certain individuals because they cannot obtain a weapon with a legal background check
All covered in v Heller. You might want to read up on that.
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You can't have your cake and eat it too people. You need to be one way or the other. If you have a right to bear arms, so does every other red blooded american (criminal or not). That's the american way right?
horseshite absolutism. You really don't have much of an argument do you?
Maybe you should compare and contrast the national firearm related homicide rate with the number of NICS checks done from 1994 to the present.
Posted on 8/27/15 at 5:10 pm to USAF Hart
The most responsible and mature gun owners don't go on Facebook blabbing about guns all the fricking time, hell, you would never know they owned one.
Conversely, it's also not very smart to let everyone on Facebook know that you are NOT a gun owner.
Conversely, it's also not very smart to let everyone on Facebook know that you are NOT a gun owner.
This post was edited on 8/27/15 at 5:19 pm
Posted on 8/27/15 at 5:11 pm to USAF Hart
Because giving the government a monopoly over the distribution of firearms is in itself completely against rationale behind the 2nd amendment.
The amendment was in place so that people would have a right guaranteed right to defend themselves in spite of the government (whether that's through government hostility/pressure, or government inability to provide a common defense).
The amendment was in place so that people would have a right guaranteed right to defend themselves in spite of the government (whether that's through government hostility/pressure, or government inability to provide a common defense).
Posted on 8/27/15 at 5:12 pm to BamaAcadien
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And if you don't want to have shootouts while you're at church, the movies, at school, then you're obviously unamerican and a socialist.
And if you think expanding background checks and mandating insurance/licensing are valid ways to reduce firearm homicides then you're terribly ignorant on this topic as a whole. Don't those places have those cute little "Gun Free Zone" signs too? Real good work there, so effective.
Posted on 8/27/15 at 5:12 pm to BamaAcadien
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Yes, because I was the one that asserted owning a gun confirmed your manhood in some way. Wait, that was you.
Not to mention telling someone you don't know to go f*ck themselves because they have a different politician opinion of you. You're obviously a true gentleman and prize yourself.
I guess I should be nicer to the people who want to use studies to take away my right to defend my little kids.
And a major part of being a man is taking care of the people that are in your care. A Semiautomatic gun with a high-capacity magazine is the standard personal defense weapon of our time. If you don't own and know how to operate one, or have some other means to provide for the protection of your family, then you are to some degree abdicating your responsibilities.
This post was edited on 8/27/15 at 5:16 pm
Posted on 8/27/15 at 5:16 pm to Clames
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And if you think expanding background checks and mandating insurance/licensing are valid ways to reduce firearm homicides then you're terribly ignorant on this topic as a whole. Don't those places have those cute little "Gun Free Zone" signs too? Real good work there, so effective.
What is your solution to reducing firearm homicides there then chief? You seem to be an all encompassing know it all who obviously has a fix. enlighten us please..
Posted on 8/27/15 at 5:17 pm to magildachunks
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People get their license revoked and cars impounded all the time.
Many older people are not allowed to renew licenses for many reasons ranging from eyesight to...wait for it...Mental incapacity.
And these people continue to drive and hurt people any way.
Just like people who lose their rights to gun ownership own them anyway.
Increasing laws that can be broken doesnt decrease law breakers from breaking them.
Posted on 8/27/15 at 5:17 pm to USAF Hart
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What is your solution to reducing firearm homicides there then chief? You seem to be an all encompassing know it all who obviously has a fix. enlighten us please..
You shouldn't ask questions for which you are not interested in hearing the answer.
Posted on 8/27/15 at 5:18 pm to USAF Hart
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What is your solution to reducing firearm homicides there then chief?
Do you think it's possible to eradicate all crimes and violence from society?
Posted on 8/27/15 at 5:18 pm to uway
Oh but I am interested in hearing an answer. Seeing as how my suggestion was met with a pretty adamant no, but there has been very few solutions outside of the general mental illness crutch.
Posted on 8/27/15 at 5:21 pm to USAF Hart
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there has been very few solutions outside of the general mental illness crutch
You chose to ignore them.
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1. stop trying to regulate firearms possession
2. start actually enforcing and penalizing persons for breaking existing firearms laws
3. reduce recidivism with mandatory and devastating penalties for crimes committed with a firearm.
4. increase funding for mental health care
5. reduce the regulations preventing citizens to protect themselves and their family with lethal force and make the those laws nationally universal
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