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re: has the death row inmate letter been discussed?
Posted on 3/5/14 at 6:31 pm to broeho
Posted on 3/5/14 at 6:31 pm to broeho
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I do think he is remorseful though, and there's nothing in the letter to say he isn't.
One typically cannot be remorseful for an act they adamantly and repeatedly state they did not commit.
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his apology isn't relevant to the observations he makes in his letter.
When the underlying theme of your letter is empathy and honesty, you look like a hypocrite who is anything but honest by not discussing the lack of empathy he has for the man he killed. He does owe the reader something, if he wants readers to even consider his words as sincere. He didn't take one ounce of responsibility. He is on the level of a small child with his thinking.
frick this guy. Perhaps he should have planned and committed a murder in his home state of California if he didn't want to be sent to death. Perhaps he should have taken the plea deal offered if he didn't want to be on death row. Of course, the latter would require him to take some responsibility for his own actions, which he made very clear that he had no intention of doing.
As far as the other points you list, I don't need a cold blooded murderer telling me about them. Plenty of people hold those beliefs, and they didn't have to commit a vicious act to acquire them.
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Posted on 3/5/14 at 6:32 pm to Hazelnut
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there's no reason for it.
Punishment, maybe?
Posted on 3/5/14 at 6:36 pm to PuntBamaPunt
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Sweet lecture on empathy.
Sweet lecture on lack of remorse and sociopathic refusal to accept blame for what he planned out and did. From the comments:
quote:So that's why he's on death row? Because he's trying to set "white America" straight? There is no fixing this level of stupidity and willing ignorance.
This breaks my heart that this insightful voice which needs to be heard, this young man who has a lot of lessons to teach us, especially white America, is about to be put to death. But of course he is, because how dare he try to tell White America anything, right? White America probably wants to kill him twice now.
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Now I'm sure some angry white person will recite all the ugly details of the crime he was involved in so I can feel all justified about murdering this kid. Save it.
Yes, because only angry white people would point out that the guy is guilty as shite. No matter.
This is how fricked-up the liberal mind has become. The criminal is always the victim. It would be funny if it wasn't so widespread.
Posted on 3/5/14 at 6:38 pm to Hazelnut
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It's dumb and there's no reason for it.
Of course there is. It can never be effectively carried out in this country though, to the point that it's a deterrent. I'm a bigger fan of vigilante justice for PoS who kill, or rape a child.
Posted on 3/5/14 at 6:43 pm to PuntBamaPunt
There are so many points to attack in that letter. But what struck me the most was the lack of of an apology and the lack of "empathy" for his victim.
Posted on 3/5/14 at 6:43 pm to Hazelnut
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I'm on death row and yet I didn't commit the act of murder. I was convicted under the law of parties. When people read about the case, they assume I killed the victim, but the facts are undisputed that I did not kill the victim. The one who killed him plead guilty to capital murder for a life sentence. He admitted to the murder and has never denied it. Under the Texas law of parties, they say it doesn't matter whether I killed the victim or not, I'm criminally responsible for someone else's conduct. But I was the only one given the death penalty.
I didn't read the whole letter just the first page of this thread but how does the guy who committed the murder get a lighter sentence than a guy who watched him commit it?
Posted on 3/5/14 at 6:44 pm to GRTiger
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Perhaps he should have taken the plea deal offered if he didn't want to be on death row. Of course, the latter would require him to take some responsibility for his own actions
He is taking responsibility. He's in prison, and he's also going to be killed by the state.
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As far as the other points you list, I don't need a cold blooded murderer telling me about them
I don't know if you are familiar with ad-hominem attacks. If you are familiar though, perhaps you should read up on them and get a little refresher.
If Hitler says 1+1=2, it is still true. The fact that he's a dickhead has no relevance.
Posted on 3/5/14 at 6:45 pm to RandySavage
The men that struck the fatal blows pled guilty and got life. This guy decided to take a chance on convincing a jury that he merely slashed the throat of the victim (not the fatal blow) and was convicted of felony murder and sentenced to death.
Posted on 3/5/14 at 6:46 pm to PuntBamaPunt
Whoops, nevermind! Slashed a guy's throat. Time to die, Aristotle.
This post was edited on 3/5/14 at 6:47 pm
Posted on 3/5/14 at 6:48 pm to RandySavage
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I didn't read the whole letter just the first page of this thread but how does the guy who committed the murder get a lighter sentence than a guy who watched him commit it?
First, he didn't just watch. He participated and actually slit the victim's throat.
Secondly, he was more ignorant than his counterparts who accepted a plea agreement. Ultimately, his arrogance convinced him to roll the dice and he lost. The other murderers were smart enough to take a deal.
This isn't rocket science.
Posted on 3/5/14 at 6:56 pm to PuntBamaPunt
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You forgot the only one that matters, wrongful conviction. In this case it was open and shut (jury deliberated 15 minutes). Let that motherfricker burn.
Wrongful conviction is the only issue I have, but its enough to make me oppose the death penalty in general. It's an awful thing to see an innocent person hauled off to prison, but at least there's always a chance to overturn a prison sentence.
Posted on 3/5/14 at 7:10 pm to broeho
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He is taking responsibility. He's in prison, and he's also going to be killed by the state.
Being convicted and forced to suffer the consequences is nowhere near taking responsibility. He says he doesn't deserve the punishment he received. How is that taking responsibility by any definition?
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I don't know if you are familiar with ad-hominem attacks. If you are familiar though, perhaps you should read up on them and get a little refresher.
who am I attacking? quote:
If Hitler says 1+1=2, it is still true. The fact that he's a dickhead has no relevance.
No shite. I'm not sure what the purpose of saying that was. There is no analogy there that is relevant to what I said. If Hitler needed to murder 6 million people to reach the conclusion that 1+1 equaled 2, that doesn't mean I should give him extra credit for having that belief. Or even care that he is another person out of many who holds the same belief, for that matter.
Posted on 3/5/14 at 7:46 pm to LSUballs
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Cry me a river convict. Don't want to be in prison and treated like a slave? Don't commit a crime that will put you in prison.
Posted on 3/5/14 at 7:47 pm to RBWilliams8
Didn't read the convicts letter but whatever it was has been shut down by the victims bro.
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