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re: Great YT video "How the US Is Destroying Young People’s Future"

Posted on 5/6/24 at 9:49 am to
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50604 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 9:49 am to
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If you made 500k in the 90s you’re a fricking failure if you need social security


Irrelevant. If social security is meant to be paid to people when they hit retirement age, then they should receive what they paid into it.
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37372 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 9:50 am to
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Youre debating people who think the world is pre-ordained and dont believe in merit.

Anyone not working a decent paying job by now is either willingly poor or just not smart enough to compete in the modern economy
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Don't you think this might have something to do with the idea that the "reward" for merit is far less than advertised, far less than the work, etc.? Or at least there's a component here to the diminishing value of the dollar and the effort that goes into it?


It's not a simple "if x then y" if x and y are both changing constantly.


And I'd agree that some portion of what is faced today is controlled by the individual, but there's a portion that isn't - and there's a whole problem of minset, psychology, etc. that can effect the necessary outcome.
Posted by Limitlesstigers
Lafayette
Member since Nov 2019
2890 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 9:51 am to
These millenialz need to quit complaining and being lazy.

1.) There's plenty of places with affordable housing like Bogalusa, northern Alaska, Lake Providence, Tululah, coal towns in West Virginia, Opelousas, Ville Platte, Bastrop, New Orleans East, and North Baton Rouge.

2.) If you quit buying Starbucks and OnlyFans, you'd be rich.

3.) Voting for pro inflation politicians for decades, ending the gold standard, Voting for NAFTA, passing ridulous building code and zoning regulations didn't cause any of this. You're a bigoted ageist.
Posted by DrrTiger
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2023
366 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 10:11 am to
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Voting for pro inflation politicians for decades


Yeah, if only those previous generations voted for the fiscal conservatives the genius millennials and Z’ers have supported.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
15495 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 10:23 am to
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Video goes on to show that every year we are transferring $1.4 trillion from social security from working aged citizens including the younger to give to the "grandparents" who are the wealthiest generation to have ever existed.
Who paid into Social Security their entire lives and were NOT given a choice in the matter unless they were self-employed. How did we get wealthier? We worked for it. The younger generation should try that instead of getting a gender studies or art appreciation degree and accumulating a mountain of debt they want US to pay for their stupidity.

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What went wrong was greed.
Or….we made smarter choices and didn’t accumulate a mountain of moronic debt.

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There needs to be more a total revamp in how we see things such as education and housing.
Half right, education absolutely, get rid of courses and degrees which have NO value. Colleges (I looked up just the arts and sciences majors at NYU) have 60 majors. Out of those there are maybe 20 ( probably closer to 10) you have a reasonable chance of landing a decent job. The minors are even worse. Who decided that was a good idea? Of yeah, the government you want to fix it. Thanks for one more stupid thing Jimmy Carter.
Posted by glassart
Member since Apr 2021
297 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 10:23 am to
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It’s a simple fact that you can’t try and change with anecdotal stories


Anecdotal stories are how to distinguish between the paid trolls and regular people.

Notice how astutely they avoid any basic universal anecdotes like Amazon didn’t exist before W cut a deal to let China sell directly to US citizens.

Posted by terriblegreen
Souf Badden Rewage
Member since Aug 2011
9661 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 10:24 am to
Boo fricking hoo. Work hard and get ahead.
Posted by SoloTiger
Member since Aug 2016
9520 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 10:25 am to
Bitcoin fixes this.
Posted by Turnblad85
Member since Sep 2022
1223 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 10:28 am to
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They lived in 3 br 1 bath box’s that were a lot smaller than the average home today. Features like paneled walls, 8 ft ceilings, low roof pitch, and small lots were very common.




The issue with these homes is that they are ghettos now almost without exception. In my hometown these neighborhoods used to be awesome middle class areas with non-existent crime. When I drive through them now I make sure my doors are locked.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56423 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 10:31 am to
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The amount of people that post outlier stories thinking it means anything is wild to me

Yet you did it with a 450k home in BTR. Be consistent at least. Or not.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61323 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 10:33 am to
As usual, the problems are pointed out very well but the solutions are terrible.


Asking the same people who created the problems to fix the problems is stupid.

College has screwed over students and the country but you want to subsidize them EVEN MORE?


I don't get people who notice the horrible ineffectiveness of the government and then turn back around and expect those same systems to fix anything.


Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
15495 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 10:35 am to
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If you made 500k in the 90s you’re a fricking failure if you need social security
If you want to throw away hundreds of thousands of money you made and didn’t get a choice about being REQUIRED to give it to the government by telling them you don’t want it, be may guest, I’m certainly not going to tell you what to do with it.

By extension, you don’t get to tell me if I have to if I don’t want to throw it away.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61323 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 10:35 am to
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Who paid into Social Security their entire lives and were NOT given a choice in the matter unless they were self-employed. How did we get wealthier? We worked for it. The younger generation should try that instead of getting a gender studies or art appreciation degree and accumulating a mountain of debt they want US to pay for their stupidity.



The number of people with gender studies and art appreciation degrees is probably less than 0.1% of all college graduates.



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Or….we made smarter choices and didn’t accumulate a mountain of moronic debt.


No you didn't. You, like pretty every fat boomer, believes you're some sort of superhuman exception to all of human history.

You were born at the right time and that was the most important catalyst to your success. Not your "exceptional diligence and hardwork".


Hilarious.
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
35633 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 10:39 am to
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didn’t accumulate a mountain of moronic debt.



The government paid a large portion of college funding when your old arse was going to school. Hence the stories of being able to work and pay for school.

Then yall started paying taxes and shifted the funding onto kids via giant loans to 18 year olds.

Great!
Posted by L1C4
The Ville
Member since Aug 2017
13213 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 10:42 am to
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Compare that to the average spec home today. You'll see bonus rooms, tile showers, islands, large porches, steep roofs, and on.
Blame HGTV for that?
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61323 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 10:44 am to
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The government paid a large portion of college funding when your old arse was going to school. Hence the stories of being able to work and pay for school.

Then yall started paying taxes and shifted the funding onto kids via giant loans to 18 year olds.

Great!


Boomers created and curated an employment system that force fed college to their children and now they're screaming at them for listening.




Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61323 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 10:47 am to
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correct young folks don’t want a starter home


There ARE NO MORE STARTER homes. You boomers just scream shite that might have been true decades ago. Your sense of self-importance and accomplishment makes it impossible for you to objectively evaluate anything.


You cannot understand those before you nor the ones after you.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
14237 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 10:49 am to
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The government paid a large portion of college funding when your old arse was going to school.


Wrong.

Most people’s parents paid for tuition. Colleges had to compete for dollars and did so by providing relevant training for the future workforce. There are 10x more outside money paying for college now than there was 20-30 years ago.

It wasn’t until later that the “everyone should get to go to college” mindset led to lotto money, gubmint money and easy loans flooding the colleges. The colleges then figured out that butts in seats = $$$ so they created a bunch of BS that anyone could get into and stay in. Also, if everyone has a “degree” then what are they worth?

Before you try to fix the world you need to figure what’s actually going on.
Posted by DrrTiger
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2023
366 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 10:49 am to
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If you made 500k in the 90s you’re a fricking failure if you need social security


Yep, going to need it. Every cent of it.

Why? Because it was stolen from me and I don’t appreciate thieves very much.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
55779 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 10:53 am to
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There ARE NO MORE STARTER homes.
they exist but most of them are in the ghetto where your kids would get beat up if they went to the local school
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