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Georgia follows Alabama- governor to sign landmark school choice legislation

Posted on 3/24/24 at 5:15 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
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Posted on 3/24/24 at 5:15 pm
WSJ editorial board praises the bill. Always a good day when teachers unions lose. This year has been the biggest year in American history for school choice movement. For decades, rural politicians funded by teachers unions have killed bill after bill, all over America. These politicians have either retired or lost their primaries to politicians who want to fix the problem.



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Sixteen Georgia House Republicans dealt school choice a setback a year ago, voting against education savings accounts, or ESAs, for students in poorly performing districts. This month the ESAs came back to life, imperfectly, but at least it’s a start.

The Georgia House voted 91-82 last week to pass the scholarships, which are worth $6,500 each. They can be used toward private school tuition and other education expenses by students in the worst-performing 25% of Georgia public schools. Eight of last year’s Republican “nays” flipped their votes. The Senate, which passed the bill last year, voted for it again on Wednesday, and it heads to Republican Gov. Brian Kemp’s desk.

The success is thanks to Mr. Kemp getting over his seeming ambivalence from a year ago. He gave school choice top billing in his State of the State address, telling lawmakers the state had “run out of ‘next years.’” Last year his tepid public support came too late.


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One of the “yes” votes last year was Democratic Rep. Mesha Mainor. This year she voted yes as a Republican, having switched parties in part out of frustration at Democrats for keeping education options away from parents. “I loved the bill last year, I love it now,” she said, according to the Georgia Recorder. “It meets the needs of so many different families.”


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Regardless of your thoughts on school choice, you have to love to see special interest groups (teachers unions) fail in their bribery scheme.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
34518 posts
Posted on 3/24/24 at 5:18 pm to
Brian Kemp doing work and continuing to build his legacy as one of the best governers in Georgia history and one of the best current chief execs in the nation
This post was edited on 3/24/24 at 5:28 pm
Posted by lnomm34
Louisiana
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Posted on 3/24/24 at 5:20 pm to
Political Talk?
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 3/24/24 at 5:21 pm to
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Ot lounge is where we talk about k-12
Posted by Quatrepot
Member since Jun 2023
4037 posts
Posted on 3/24/24 at 5:23 pm to
Let the kids from failing schools move to schools that are not failing so they can fail also. Makes sense
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
34518 posts
Posted on 3/24/24 at 5:27 pm to
Posted by OleVaught14
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 3/24/24 at 5:39 pm to
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Let the kids from failing schools move to schools that are not failing so they can fail also. Makes sense


While all good private schools magically raise tuition by 6.5k due to inflation so they can keep the same level of exclusivity. New private schools will form, charging exactly $6.5k per student to take advantage of the situation, but 9/10 of them will be at or below bad public school level and run by individuals just trying to make a quick buck. School choice solves nothing and ignores the larger issues in education.
Posted by Quatrepot
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Posted on 3/24/24 at 5:48 pm to
Counter it with an argument. I know a thing or two about school scores, trust me.
Posted by Quatrepot
Member since Jun 2023
4037 posts
Posted on 3/24/24 at 5:54 pm to
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School choice solves nothing and ignores the larger issues in education.
Agree. For the most part, kids who come from homes in which education is important, do well.

Crappy schools end up that way because of the clientele; which leads to no one wanting to teach there; which leads to high percentage of crappy teachers to go along with the crappy clientele.
This post was edited on 3/24/24 at 5:56 pm
Posted by TejasHorn
High Plains Driftin'
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 3/24/24 at 5:55 pm to
I’m not sure the specifics elsewhere but when it passes in Texas it’s going to be a disaster for rural districts.

It won’t be fun seeing those tax dollars go to help rich families in Preston Hollow and Highland Park put their kids through elite private schools. But Abbot knows where his bread is buttered and it’s not BFE.

Oh, and excellent public districts like Richardson are now having to close campuses due to lack of funding.
This post was edited on 3/24/24 at 5:57 pm
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23163 posts
Posted on 3/24/24 at 6:05 pm to
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Posted byMessageTejasHornGeorgia follows Alabama- governor to sign landmark school choice legislation by TejasHornI’m not sure the specifics elsewhere but when it passes in Texas it’s going to be a disaster for rural districts.


No it isn't.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69278 posts
Posted on 3/24/24 at 6:13 pm to
You are buying the teacher union lies

Honestly just shut your fricking mouth about a subject you know nothing about
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39988 posts
Posted on 3/24/24 at 6:19 pm to
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Always a good day when teachers unions lose


Georgia doesn't have teachers unions
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 3/24/24 at 6:20 pm to
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Let the kids from failing schools move to schools that are not failing so they can fail also. Makes sense


They already do that if there's space at the schools.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69278 posts
Posted on 3/24/24 at 6:26 pm to
The national teachers union spent a lot of money trying to stop this.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 3/24/24 at 6:29 pm to
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love to see special interest groups (teachers unions) fail in their bribery scheme.



I'll be honest, I think this is a big deal because special interest and corporations are the ones who really run this country
Posted by GCTigahs
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 3/24/24 at 6:37 pm to
Parents that are involved, care enough about their child’s education, and have the transportation to get their kid to the better school are not those of failing kids. I’d love to see the % of students who left a failing district 3-4yrs after this rule came into effect to see exactly how many left. I’d bet it’s less than 5% because most failing kids’ parents don’t give two shits.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30551 posts
Posted on 3/24/24 at 6:42 pm to
LA needs this now
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 3/24/24 at 6:56 pm to
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but 9/10 of them will be at or below bad public school level and run by individuals just trying to make a quick buck


There’s a smidgen of truth here, but mostly you’re overstating the problem and you’re missing other benefits.

First of all, I think you don’t realize how abysmal most of these failing public schools are. It’s virtually impossible for 9/10 of the new private schools to be worse. In reality, the majority of the new charter schools in New Orleans are at least marginally better than the regular public schools they replaced, and half are significantly better.

Also, the really bad ones lose their license (charter) and another school company is brought in. That never happened with regular public schools.

Secondly, the new private/charter schools have “choice” as well. If a student is ungovernable and a danger to the other kids, they can actually get expelled.

As far as the Catholic schools and other religious and established private schools, many of them may open their own new schools, but managed by the established schools. They have been a huge improvement over the failing public schools.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
34518 posts
Posted on 3/24/24 at 7:20 pm to
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Parents that are involved, care enough about their child’s education, and have the transportation to get their kid to the better school are not those of failing kids. I’d love to see the % of students who left a failing district 3-4yrs after this rule came into effect to see exactly how many left. I’d bet it’s less than 5% because most failing kids’ parents don’t give two shits.

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