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re: Fourth Pregnant Zika in the US confirmed: New York City

Posted on 1/29/16 at 10:46 am to
Posted by NYNolaguy1
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 10:46 am to
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I just dont get the panic? If a woman gets bit in the first trimester it could POTENTIALLY cause a birth defect. You know what else can cause birth defects in the first trimester?


I think the researchers in Brazil found a strong casual link (but not confirmed) between Zika and the birth defect/miscarriage. I don't know the percentage.

Women trying to get pregnant can be crazy as it is, so if there's an elevated chance they'll get a deformed/dead baby because of Zika they either won't have one or will go somewhere else.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 10:51 am to
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it's not mosquito season here.....yet


Is this thing only spread by mosquito's? What about human to human transmission?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 10:52 am to
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I think the researchers in Brazil found a strong casual link (but not confirmed) between Zika and the birth defect/miscarriage. I don't know the percentage.
They also had a team that picked 35 babies with microcephaly, and none of the 35 had any Zika in their body. That is pretty eye opening considering Brazil claims there used to only be 150 cases of microcephaly a year. So they only have 150 a year, but outside medical experts come in and find 35 babies born within a week of each other that have microcephaly with no zika link? Seems odd. I do think there is a good chance that Zika could increase the chance of birth defect in the first trimester, but so could a host of other things that I already listed. So yes this is something else to be careful for, but it is not an apocalyptic/crazy story that some are trying to make it
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 10:52 am to
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Is this thing only spread by mosquito's? What about human to human transmission?



Think only mosquitos, and what I've read said significant outbreaks domestically (not from international travel) are unlikely.

Posted by BigEdLSU
All around the south
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 10:57 am to
It's bad enough that they are advising people to not have children. If that isn't eye opening of the times, what is?
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:05 am to
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They also had a team that picked 35 babies with microcephaly, and none of the 35 had any Zika in their body.
Clearly being cautious is always a good idea, but it seems that there is some fear-mongering based on poor, or at least limited and incomplete, data and research.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:07 am to
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It's bad enough that they are advising people to not have children. If that isn't eye opening of the times, what is?
Im sorry I dont let the medical experts of El Salvador rustle my jimmies
This post was edited on 1/29/16 at 11:07 am
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:08 am to
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If that isn't eye opening of the times, what is?




I'm sure idiots thought the same during the Black Plague
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:08 am to
Just came across this on Drudge....

quote:

Dr Peter Hotez gestured at three tyres dumped on the weed-ravaged, litter-strewn roadside by a boarded-up house on Worms Street.

To Hotez they were more than an eyesore – they signified a potential health hazard, the perfect breeding ground for mosquitoes that could spread the Zika virus.

The World Health Organisation has warned that the virus is spreading “explosively” through the Americas, with one estimate that there could be as many as 4m infections across the continent over the next year.

At a special briefing in Geneva on Thursday, Margaret Chan, the WHO director general warned it was a threat of “alarming proportions”. Hotez, an eminent scientist and researcher who is dean of the National School of Tropical Medicine at Baylor College of Medicine, agrees.

“I’m quite convinced it’s going to be all over the Caribbean within the next few weeks. And then, where’s next?” he said. “Where we’re standing here in the Gulf Coast … Pretty much all of the Gulf Coast cities are vulnerable but Houston is the largest.”



Zika in Texas? 'We have the perfect storm to allow virus to flourish'
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95162 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:10 am to
Here is where my main skeptism lies

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The Brazilian authorities believe the increase is caused by an outbreak of Zika virus. Just 150 babies were born with microcephaly in 2014.
The US has 25,000 cases of microcephaly a year. Yet Brazil, which has 67% if the US population, only has 150? Not a freaking chance
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:10 am to
so what I got from that is that I should be just as worried about this as I am Dengue fever and West Nile?

cool
Posted by Kujo
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Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:11 am to
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I'm sure idiots thought the same during the Black Plague


was that the one where if you owned a horse you lived and everyone else died? Something about horse dandruff or whatever built up immunities to the illness



eta:

quote:

he plague generally left untouched the indigenous nomad population, because rat fleas do not like the smell of horses, with which the nomads lived in close proximity.


fleas spread it from rats, but if you had a horse those fleas would stay away from you and you lived
This post was edited on 1/29/16 at 11:14 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95162 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:11 am to
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so what I got from that is that I should be just as worried about this as I am Dengue fever and West Nile?

Exactly. Im pretty sure West Nile in the first trimester isnt a good thing either
Posted by BigEdLSU
All around the south
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:12 am to
I'm not saying I'm convinced this is apocalyptic. Simply pointing out that we could only expect God to hold his anger back for so long. The mistreatment of children these days is sickening.
Posted by torrey225
Member since Mar 2015
1437 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:14 am to
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I read its usually picked up on ultrasound by end of 2nd trimester... Far too late to do anything about it.



For the right amount of money...
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:17 am to
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Simply pointing out that we could only expect God to hold his anger back for so long. The mistreatment of children these days is sickening.


4/10
Posted by torrey225
Member since Mar 2015
1437 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:17 am to
It can be spread human-to-human but you'll mostly just give it to your significant-other.

quote:

Only one of five people infected with the virus develop symptoms, which can include fever, rash, joint pain and red eyes. Those infected usually do not have to be hospitalized.
Posted by htownjeep
Republic of Texas
Member since Jun 2005
7612 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:19 am to
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Is this thing only spread by mosquito's? What about human to human transmission?



Think only mosquitos, and what I've read said significant outbreaks domestically (not from international travel) are unlikely.

Can also spread through sexual contact.

From the CDC
quote:

Possibly through infected blood or sexual contact There has been one report of possible spread of the virus through blood transfusion and one report of possible spread of the virus through sexual contact.
This post was edited on 1/29/16 at 11:22 am
Posted by Kujo
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Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:21 am to
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At least 31 people in the U.S. have been diagnosed with the Zika virus in 11 states, including a pregnant woman in New York City, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Two other pregnant women were diagnosed with the disease in Illinois earlier this month.

Health officials noted that all those infected likely contracted the disease outside of the U.S. There is no current transmission of the virus in the country.

There have been reports of transmission in Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands, where at least 20 people have been diagnosed with the virus.


so if that's 31 total, but 4 pregnant women.....maybe zika mosquitoes are attracted to the hormones of pregnant women?

seems like a high transmission rate if 13% of those who come down with the virus enough to test are pregnant....maybe it's their compromised immune system?


ETA: LINK
This post was edited on 1/29/16 at 11:23 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95162 posts
Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:28 am to
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so if that's 31 total, but 4 pregnant women.....maybe zika mosquitoes are attracted to the hormones of pregnant women?

seems like a high transmission rate if 13% of those who come down with the virus enough to test are pregnant....maybe it's their compromised immune system?
You really cant figure this out? Pregnant women are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more likely to go get tested for it. The normal person really has no reason to go get tested
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