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re: Found this WWII government produced film about the death camps. Death Mills.
Posted on 2/1/15 at 10:24 pm to 1234567VFL
Posted on 2/1/15 at 10:24 pm to 1234567VFL
Posted on 2/1/15 at 10:26 pm to Tuscaloosa
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Did all of the surviving death camp Jews call a big pow-wow and come up with coordinating elaborate stories of their families being systematically killed?
I'm sure some actually think that...
Posted on 2/1/15 at 10:50 pm to Jet12
Dealing with Holocaust Deniers and 911 Truthers both fall under the same quote:
"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You'll both get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it."
- George Bernard Shaw
Whether the deniers or truthers actually are stupid enough to believe what they contend or they have an alterior political motive or they just want to be counter-cultural hipsters is their own business. They should simply and firmly be called out as liars and recognized for the idiots they are and then ostracized.
To the morons who posted this shite today, you are stupid and wrong. You are miserable, shallow, racist people. Go away. Do humanity a favor: Do not reproduce. You are shitty folk carrying substandard genes.
That is all.
"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You'll both get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it."
- George Bernard Shaw
Whether the deniers or truthers actually are stupid enough to believe what they contend or they have an alterior political motive or they just want to be counter-cultural hipsters is their own business. They should simply and firmly be called out as liars and recognized for the idiots they are and then ostracized.
To the morons who posted this shite today, you are stupid and wrong. You are miserable, shallow, racist people. Go away. Do humanity a favor: Do not reproduce. You are shitty folk carrying substandard genes.
That is all.
This post was edited on 2/1/15 at 10:53 pm
Posted on 2/1/15 at 10:59 pm to 1234567VFL
This is like a car wreck... I can't turn away and I'm hoping at the end of it you see how ignorant you are, but somehow I doubt it.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 12:43 pm to Tuscaloosa
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How do you explain the videos of the mass shootings, and the first-hand accounts of survivors? Is it just some huge organized conspiracy by the Jews to make people feel sorry for them? Did they pay people to dress up as Nazis and film them fake-shooting them? Did all of the surviving death camp Jews call a big pow-wow and come up with coordinating elaborate stories of their families being systematically killed?
Do you have any idea how ridiculous that sounds?
Bump for 1234567VFL
Posted on 2/2/15 at 12:53 pm to Tuscaloosa
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1234567VFL
Found Him
Posted on 2/2/15 at 1:17 pm to prplhze2000
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The War Department released a video shortly after WWII called Death Mills. It was a report of sorts on what the US Army found in the concentration camps. It was shown to the German people as well. Has alot of historical value.
There was a pretty tight lid kept on that as we started to rebuild Germany and faced the USSR across the Iron Curtain during the Cold War. There as a conscious effort to tamp a lot of this down to keep emotions in check.
In fact, the feature film, Judgment at Nuremberg (1961) (a fictionalized account of the 1947 Judges Trials, as well as briefly touching on the Berlin Airlift - and one of the best films ever made) was the first occasion that actual film from the camps was seen by a wide U.S. audience, although there had been examples such as the film you linked, other short snippets and still photographs.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 1:26 pm to StarkRebel
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1234567VFL
I understand wanting ot be objective when it comes to matters of historic record. The old adage of "the victors write the history books" is very true and has made the study of history quite difficult in many regards when it comes to separating fact from opinions, biases, and outright lies.
But when it comes to the Holocaust, there is no way any objective person can come to any other conclusion than to realize that it did indeed happen and was a horrific crime on a scale that boggles the mind. It is an unavoidable FACT that the Nazis built and ran a massive industrial complex spanning eastern and central Europe who's sole purpose was to exterminate people on a scale ever before seen in the history of mankind.
This Nazi killing program started in the 30's as what was deemed a "humane" euthanasia program (Action T4) and step by small step eventually grew into what is known to history as the Final Solution.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 1:30 pm to 1234567VFL
1234567VFL: you are not alone in your argument. until recently, my way of thinking on this subject was aligned with all of those who are mocking you in this thread. i have always had a keen interest in both world wars and all of the circumstances leading up to them; and all that has happened as a result of the conflicts. a quote comes to mind that i find apt for some of your detractors: "to learn who rules over you, find out who it is that is beyond criticism."
Posted on 2/2/15 at 1:38 pm to 1234567VFL
From what I've read, you're a piece of shite.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 1:45 pm to Darth_Vader
The Final Solution is an actual document too so I don't understand why this thread has gone on as long as it has. Let this guy spread his bullshite somewhere else.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 1:47 pm to lsuguy84
Do you people actually believe the "muh 6 million" jews died in the death camps?
Posted on 2/2/15 at 1:47 pm to 1234567VFL
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just google Faurisson, or Zundel, or Weber, and you will have plenty of evidence.
So three saurkraut sounding dudes who say it wasn't that bad compared to pretty much any and every respected western historical account. Seems legit.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 1:56 pm to Gcockboi
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Do you people actually believe the "muh 6 million" jews died in the death camps?
The 6 million tally is a rough estimate, but about as accurate as we'll ever hope to get to the true number. The sad truth of the matter is we'll never know the exact number of people the Nazis exterminated. What's beyond doubt though is the Nazis murdered people in the millions and somewhere around roughly 6 million of them were Jews that were killed for no other reason than they were guilty of being Jewish.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 1:56 pm to Gcockboi
No. That is no longer the reported number. Closer to one million
Posted on 2/2/15 at 1:57 pm to Darth_Vader
You need to catch up
Or watch the Night Will Fall documentary
Or watch the Night Will Fall documentary
Posted on 2/2/15 at 2:01 pm to Paige
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You need to catch up
What am I behind on here?
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Or watch the Night Will Fall documentary
I'd be afraid to guess at the number of documentaries I've watched and books I've read about the Holocaust but I've not seen this one. I had to Google it. I'll check my VOD tonight to see if it's available there.
This post was edited on 2/2/15 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 2/2/15 at 2:26 pm to Paige
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You need to catch up Or watch the Night Will Fall documentary
I'm not sure we're ready to pivot from 60 years of scholarship based on one film (admittedly I was unfamiliar with it until your reference).
I still see approximately 11 million total victims (Jews, Poles, Gypsies, other ethnic groups and Soviet POWs), with up to 1 million children, overall, and 1 million at Auschwitz alone.
Part of the problem with the revisionism is that the Nazis kept impeccable records for as long as that was feasible. Yeah, stuff broke down in April and May of '45, but before then, you can dig through the logs and determine how many were processed, how many were detained, how much Zyklon-B they were ordering and using, the capacity of the showers/ovens, and then just count the survivors to figure out how many are missing.
You have to accept that either A. The Germans killed 11 million people (roughly 6 million European Jews), B. The Allies did it and framed the Germans for it, or C. Aliens kidnapped them and took them to a magical Jewish planet.
Historical evidence says it's "A."
This post was edited on 2/2/15 at 2:46 pm
Posted on 2/2/15 at 2:30 pm to prplhze2000
Omg, I can't believe it...
Tigerdroppings has a Holocaust denier. If I ever run for political office, I need to delete this account.
Tigerdroppings has a Holocaust denier. If I ever run for political office, I need to delete this account.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 3:30 pm to GetCocky11
LINK
The interview of Don Paisikowic, a jewish prisoner who worked in the creamatorium & gas chambers, is incredible (in a horrible way).
The interview of Don Paisikowic, a jewish prisoner who worked in the creamatorium & gas chambers, is incredible (in a horrible way).
This post was edited on 2/2/15 at 3:34 pm
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