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re: For those interested, a TL, DR on ISIS
Posted on 2/17/15 at 11:44 am to Meauxjeaux
Posted on 2/17/15 at 11:44 am to Meauxjeaux
Not Isis per se, but the western Jihadi movement, especially with regards to Islamic doctrine
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Posted on 2/17/15 at 11:49 am to touchdownjeebus
why can't we smoke, booze, look at boobs, and talk about global current events?
holy run on sentence.
anyway, to the strip club!
holy run on sentence.
anyway, to the strip club!
Posted on 2/17/15 at 11:54 am to anc
So far, I'm very interested in this article. Thanks for posting.
Posted on 2/17/15 at 12:00 pm to anc
very long....read a good portion...basically, until we recognize it for what it is...and educate ourselves about the enemy, we will underestimate them and continue to lose ground...the biggest problem we face is...they will wage total and complete war, but we will not...our society and our media will not allow it...until we decide to frick them up relentlessly and take away their willingness to wage war...they will continue to gain strength...but we wont, cause we are too pussified...
Posted on 2/17/15 at 12:01 pm to touchdownjeebus
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These fools are batshit crazy, and are certainly evil, but to someone deeply embedded and involved with ISIS, it is completely logical and the purest form of their faith. They are no different than that of a crazy offshoot of Christianity, well except they lop people's heads off...
Please cite the atrocities committed in modern times in the name of Christianity that justifies the moral equivalency inherent in your statement.
Posted on 2/17/15 at 12:01 pm to anc
Still reading, but I found this interesting. In bold below.
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That means roughly 200 million Shia are marked for death. So too are the heads of state of every Muslim country, who have elevated man-made law above Sharia by running for office or enforcing laws not made by God.
Following takfiri doctrine, the Islamic State is committed to purifying the world by killing vast numbers of people. The lack of objective reporting from its territory makes the true extent of the slaughter unknowable, but social-media posts from the region suggest that individual executions happen more or less continually, and mass executions every few weeks. Muslim “apostates” are the most common victims. Exempted from automatic execution, it appears, are Christians who do not resist their new government. Baghdadi permits them to live, as long as they pay a special tax, known as the jizya, and acknowledge their subjugation. The Koranic authority for this practice is not in dispute.
Posted on 2/17/15 at 12:13 pm to deeprig9
taxation without Cranial representation
Posted on 2/17/15 at 12:13 pm to anc
Very interesting. Thanks for posting.
Posted on 2/17/15 at 12:14 pm to deeprig9
quote:Boy, ain't he something to be proud of?
“If a jayvee team puts on Lakers uniforms that doesn’t make them Kobe Bryant,” the president said.
Posted on 2/17/15 at 12:14 pm to davesdawgs
I wasn't teferring to atrocities, but doctrine.
Here is something this article fails to address:
According to Islamic law, they MUST dictate their actions. They must tell us what they are going to do and they must tell us 3 times. Without giving warning, they are in violation of sharia. That is part of the reason why they push out the propaganda vids. They serve as warning.
We can use this to our advantage, but we are woeful in that department...
Here is something this article fails to address:
According to Islamic law, they MUST dictate their actions. They must tell us what they are going to do and they must tell us 3 times. Without giving warning, they are in violation of sharia. That is part of the reason why they push out the propaganda vids. They serve as warning.
We can use this to our advantage, but we are woeful in that department...
Posted on 2/17/15 at 12:25 pm to deeprig9
Some badass shite right here.
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After its battle in Dabiq, Cerantonio said, the caliphate will expand and sack Istanbul. Some believe it will then cover the entire Earth, but Cerantonio suggested its tide may never reach beyond the Bosporus. An anti-Messiah, known in Muslim apocalyptic literature as Dajjal, will come from the Khorasan region of eastern Iran and kill a vast number of the caliphate’s fighters, until just 5,000 remain, cornered in Jerusalem. Just as Dajjal prepares to finish them off, Jesus—the second-most-revered prophet in Islam—will return to Earth, spear Dajjal, and lead the Muslims to victory.
Posted on 2/17/15 at 12:27 pm to tigerbutt
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This should be the next place we bomb.
Yea, let's go ahead and bomb where Armageddon will take place.
Posted on 2/17/15 at 12:48 pm to magildachunks
They are guarding a damn farm, not Geda.
Posted on 2/17/15 at 12:50 pm to deeprig9
Random ISIS member coming off the top rope on Twitter... pwning Obama
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Western officials would probably do best to refrain from weighing in on matters of Islamic theological debate altogether. Barack Obama himself drifted into takfiri waters when he claimed that the Islamic State was “not Islamic”—the irony being that he, as the non-Muslim son of a Muslim, may himself be classified as an apostate, and yet is now practicing takfir against Muslims. Non-Muslims’ practicing takfir elicits chuckles from jihadists (“Like a pig covered in feces giving hygiene advice to others,” one tweeted).
Posted on 2/17/15 at 12:52 pm to anc
Does it mention the fact that they are a western creation? 
What better way than to help cleanse the world of muslim extremists.. than by proving to the muslim world that the extremists will kill them too.
What better way than to help cleanse the world of muslim extremists.. than by proving to the muslim world that the extremists will kill them too.
Posted on 2/17/15 at 12:53 pm to Meauxjeaux
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The rise of Isis has 0, zilch, nada to do with bad governance or shitty conditions or outward denigration of anywhere in the middle east.
It's rise is one thing and one thing only... in a battle of good vs evil, it is the gathering and organizing of the side of evil.
Nothing more, nothing less.
False, wrong wrong wrong.
ISIS has EVERYTHING to do with bad government.
Whether it was the Assad regime completely disregarding the majority Sunni population of his country, the United States barring former Baathists (Sunnis) from the new Iraqi government, Al Maliki purging Sunni's from his cabinet and the military, ect. ISIS could not recruit or operate absent of bad government.
Posted on 2/17/15 at 12:56 pm to kingbob
Whomever wrote that article seriously wordfricked my brain in some places.
Posted on 2/17/15 at 1:10 pm to The Sad Banana
That was a good article. I was unaware of a lot in regards to ISIS. I did find it interesting that it says that ISIS is less concerned with waging Jihad in the West and is more concerned with maintaining / expanding its borders.
Posted on 2/17/15 at 1:12 pm to SUB
I took away from it that America isn't it's main enemy, but it's main enemy is non-prophetic-Muslims (basically anyone but people who believe in Prohetic-Islam). But, America will do just fine in the short term.
This post was edited on 2/17/15 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 2/17/15 at 1:17 pm to anc
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Fascinating, well researched article on ISIS in the March issue of the Atlantic
LINK
Big takeaway is that they truly believe they are the agent that will bring on Armageddon. They captured some insignificant farmland in Syria and celebrated like they had taken Washington, D.C. That farmland is prophesied to be where the last battle on earth will take place.
Again, its a very long article - you need to be interested to engage, but its a fascinating read.
Will read it, bookmarking for later; does it speak in depth about the 12th Imam?
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