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for the "there are good public schools in the suburbs" crowd

Posted on 9/23/21 at 9:33 am
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 9/23/21 at 9:33 am
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a significant % of public school teachers are nutjobs, even in suburban texas. see "libs of tiktok" for reference.

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IRVING, Texas — Hundreds of students walked out of MacArthur High School on Wednesday in protest after teachers were allegedly forced to take down "safe space" stickers on their classroom doors.

The students could be seen walking onto the school's football field and around the building during the afternoon.

Students told WFAA that two teachers who sponsor the school's Gay-Straight Alliance Club handed out "safe space" stickers to all teachers for them to put on their doors if they were comfortable having discussions with students who identified as LGBTQIA+.
Posted by The Spleen
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Posted on 9/23/21 at 9:37 am to
Good for those students.
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 9/23/21 at 9:38 am to
Good public schools to most people = mostly white kids

The actual education you get isnt relevant to a suburban karen
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 9/23/21 at 9:39 am to
Shouldn’t it be a safe space for everyone?


frick the amount of look at me bullshite. It would only be used to attack those who didn’t kowtow to the rainbow mafia.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Posted on 9/23/21 at 9:39 am to
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IRVING, Texas — Hundreds of students walked out of MacArthur High School on Wednesday in protest after teachers were allegedly forced to take down "safe space" stickers on their classroom doors.

The students could be seen walking onto the school's football field and around the building during the afternoon.

Students told WFAA that two teachers who sponsor the school's Gay-Straight Alliance Club handed out "safe space" stickers to all teachers for them to put on their doors if they were comfortable having discussions with students who identified as LGBTQIA+.


I don't know why you would stop teachers from putting up a small sticker.

LGBTQ teens tend to really struggle through those years. Many commit suicide due to their inability to cope with the rejection they may face at home or in school.

I know my son's class had 2 gay kids commit suicide because of the way their parents reacted to them.
This post was edited on 9/23/21 at 9:41 am
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 9/23/21 at 9:39 am to
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Good public schools to most people = mostly white kids

The actual education you get isnt relevant to a suburban karen

This post was edited on 9/23/21 at 9:40 am
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 9/23/21 at 9:40 am to
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two teachers who sponsor the school's Gay-Straight Alliance Club handed out "safe space" stickers to all teachers for them to put on their doors if they were comfortable having discussions with students who identified as LGBTQIA+.


Why is this a school club, and why would these idiots hand out these stickers?

I would have thrown that straight in the trash.
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
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Posted on 9/23/21 at 9:40 am to
Wait, so were the students mad that they had to take down the stickers? Or were they protesting to force them to take down the stickers?
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
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Posted on 9/23/21 at 9:41 am to
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know my son's class had 2 gay kids commit suicide because of the way their parents reacted to them.


When you say 2 in your kids class do you mean highschool class or like middle school home room class?
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 9/23/21 at 9:43 am to
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I don't know why you would stop teachers from putting up a small sticker.


Because then, if anyone doesn’t put up their stupid sticker for whatever reason, they will mark them an “unsafe space”. (Even when it’s nothing of the sort)

It’s little passive aggressive bullshite. They mask it in this nonsense but really it’s a tool of persecution. Totalitarianism 101. It’s the soft sell.


It’s like the rainbow filters on FB.
This post was edited on 9/23/21 at 9:44 am
Posted by Pettifogger
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Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 9/23/21 at 9:44 am to
It just depends on scale used

A lot of suburban schools are decent in the sense that the education is generally there, there are some decent teachers and there is mixed student motivation/parent involvement. Your kid will go to college, but he might be around a bunch of students who are staying close to home, planning to start by living at home, etc. Which is fine to some extent, but a high portion of kids who do that won't ever transfer or move out or graduate or whatever the ambition is, and if your kids are surrounded by those kids, it can be a negative.

The number of suburban public schools where more than a quarter/third of students are looking beyond commuter colleges and community colleges and expect to go to good privates and large public colleges (a reflection, usually, of parent involvement and higher motivation) is small however. Really small in the southeast.

I think avoiding all wokeness in K-12 is a hard task. Almost any high end private is all about the DEI, although hopefully they're better about keeping it from dominating.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 9/23/21 at 9:46 am to
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Why is this a school club



Why is there any club in high school?
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 9/23/21 at 9:47 am to
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I don't know why you would stop teachers from putting up a small sticker.



1. Because it's polarizing and pits teachers against teachers.
2. Because teachers aren't trained to counsel.

There's an entire department at the school whose explicit function is to be a safe space for students to have those discussions with professionals...the counseling center. Every student...regardless of their particular issue...should know that they can walk into a counselor's office and talk about anything.
This post was edited on 9/23/21 at 10:34 am
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 9/23/21 at 9:47 am to
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I know my son's class had 2 gay kids commit suicide because of the way their parents reacted to them.


Perhaps it was the a priori assumptions inculcated through social media about the nature of human sexuality and the angst that it openly promotes and endorses which had as much or more influence on those so-called “lgbtq” teens before their parents even uttered a sound or made a face on the topic.

I’m pretty sure your condemnation of the parents is a shallow examination of the details of the topic.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51448 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 9:47 am to
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Why is this a school club


Gay-Straight Alliance has been around for forever. If it helps some people get through the awkward and sometimes tough years of high school , then it is a good thing.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/23/21 at 9:47 am to
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Good for those students.



Femme
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 9/23/21 at 9:48 am to
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the school's Gay-Straight Alliance Club


What the frick is this?
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 9/23/21 at 9:50 am to
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Because then, if anyone doesn’t put up their stupid sticker for whatever reason, they will mark them an “unsafe space”. (Even when it’s nothing of the sort)


Are you trying to tell us that virtue signaling has negative unintended consequences??? B I G O T!!!!

Comply now, slave.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Member since Feb 2012
79414 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 9:51 am to
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Because then, if anyone doesn’t put up their stupid sticker for whatever reason, they will mark them an “unsafe space”. (Even when it’s nothing of the sort)



Yes, and it teaches students to catastrophize. Out of the ether, it provides the perception to mixed up young people who are being controlled by emotions and hormones and stupidity that most of the school isn't particularly safe for whatever they're dealing with.

The reality is that most of the issues faced by youth aren't serious, and in prior generations we've told them that and in 10 or 15 years they look back and become the people who tell the next generation that.

So not only are we legitimizing all this stuff, we're telling them they're in a war zone of supporters and detractors and they need to get in here where it's safe and the teachers who don't have the sticker can't harm them.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 9/23/21 at 9:51 am to
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Your kid will go to college, but he might be around a bunch of students who are staying close to home, planning to start by living at home, etc. Which is fine to some extent, but a high portion of kids who do that won't ever transfer or move out or graduate or whatever the ambition is, and if your kids are surrounded by those kids, it can be a negative.

this is my experience. i went to a big public high school with a pretty good reputation and a significant % of people i graduated with "lived at home" while commuting to a local college. very few, if any, actually graduated and ended up being an engineer, big 4 accountant, etc.

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I think avoiding all wokeness in K-12 is a hard task. Almost any high end private is all about the DEI, although hopefully they're better about keeping it from dominating.

maybe a hot take but i've always felt this is a bigger part of the problem than the universities. the kids are radicalized by the time they get to college. college allows them to "be who they are" now that they aren't living with parents.
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