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First orthodontist appointment for 9yo

Posted on 7/17/23 at 11:21 am
Posted by Water
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2020
729 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 11:21 am
1k for a ‘corrective appliance’

You ortho baws are running a Gordon level racket
Posted by TigerTroll11
Asheville
Member since Sep 2012
451 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 11:23 am to
1k is cheap baw. Just lube thine anus and pay up
Posted by LSUballs
RayVegas LA
Member since Feb 2008
37741 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 11:24 am to
Dude, it get way more worser.
Posted by Ricardo
Member since Sep 2016
4875 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 11:27 am to
If your insurance is good it won’t be too bad.

About $2k out of pocket is expected for braces.

Posted by toofache
Kansas City
Member since Feb 2015
118 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 11:27 am to
I'm an Oral Surgeon, but I work very closely with many Orthodontist. What would you think a reasonable price for ANY appliance would be? They will have to pay a lab bill for the lab to make the appliance. If they have it made in house they will have to pay for the labor and materials.

If they take an impression there are costs involved in that. If they scan instead of impress, there is a huge cost in the scanner. They will have multiple follow up appointments.

They aren't making much on a 1K appliance by the time you figure in overhead, payroll, materials, lab costs, etc.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166226 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 11:27 am to
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About $4-5k out of pocket is expected for braces.


fify
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
8799 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 11:28 am to
Yea over 6k for my last kid.
Posted by TDFreak
Dodge Charger Aficionado
Member since Dec 2009
7362 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 11:31 am to
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They aren't making much on a 1K appliance by the time you figure in overhead, payroll, materials, lab costs, etc.
Boo freaking hoo.

I see y’all driving those late model cars back to U-Club baw.
Posted by Water
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2020
729 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 11:32 am to
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I'm an Oral Surgeon


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by toofache


Name checks out
Posted by toofache
Kansas City
Member since Feb 2015
118 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 11:34 am to
I'm sure i'll get downvoted like hell, but if your kids ortho cost 6K you are getting tremendous value out of that. Your kid will have a pretty smile and their teeth will be straighter making them easier to care for.

There probably isn't another procedure in all of medicine that takes the amount of clinical time, calendar time, and oversight that comprehensive ortho does at anywhere close to that costs.

People have no problem at all shelling out 1K every 3 months for Botox but balk at spending 5-8K for a very valuable procedure for their kid.

Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
20296 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 11:36 am to
Smile Direct Club. It's easy, cheap, and does the exact same shite as $7K Invisalign. After a $400 rebate, I think my total was about $1400.

Might be a little hard on 9 year olds though. I think when they're that little, old-school braces are probably the only way to go.
Posted by BoogalooCopperpot
In my own head
Member since Jan 2021
458 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 11:38 am to
Why don’t you wait for five more years so you don’t have to have braces twice
Posted by Water
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2020
729 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 11:38 am to
Never said we weren’t gonna do it, just getting sticker shock.

Like most everything else these days.

Orthodontist was pretty reasonable all things considered
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
140462 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 11:39 am to
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I'm an Oral Surgeon

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toofache
name checks out

Eta:
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Water
This post was edited on 7/17/23 at 11:40 am
Posted by toofache
Kansas City
Member since Feb 2015
118 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 11:42 am to
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Smile Direct Club. It's easy, cheap, and does the exact same shite as $7K Invisalign. After a $400 rebate, I think my total was about $1400.

Might be a little hard on 9 year olds though. I think when they're that little, old-school braces are probably the only way to go.


I've seen some tragic results from SDC. If a dentist or orthodontist operated the way SDC did, they would lose their license.

A dentist or orthodontist has to make sure that the teeth, gums, and supporting bone structure are healthy enough for orthodontics. How does SDC accomplish this without a dentist/ortho actually looking at xrays or even the mouth and following up throughout treatment?

Just because you can move teeth doesn't mean you should.

In just the past month i've had to extract every tooth in 2 patients mouths who were in SDC that had no business being ortho in the first place.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
140462 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 11:45 am to
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In just the past month i've had to extract every tooth in 2 patients mouths who were in SDC that had no business being ortho in the first place.




Sucks to pass on shitty genes to your children, sounds costly
Posted by toofache
Kansas City
Member since Feb 2015
118 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 11:46 am to
That's a great question that I hear a lot. I'm sure there are some orthodontists on here who can explain this better than I can.

There are certain types of movement/expansion of the arches that can only be accomplished prior to about 11 or 12 years old. After that the palate has fused and can no longer be truly expanded. Most kids do not have all of their permanent teeth it prior to this age. You do Phase I of ortho in order to create space so that when all of the permanent teeth have come in they have more room and ortho usually can get a much better result in a shorter amount of time.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Alpha Silverfox
Member since Oct 2011
41573 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 11:51 am to
Teeth continue to move well into a person’s 20’s. An orthodontic appliance for a 9 year old seems ridiculous to me. High school juniors and seniors with braces is much more appropriate than a 9 year old but insurance is my thing, not teeth, so I could be well off here.
Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
9795 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 11:55 am to
Thinking back....

Seems like the process continued until graduation.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
65610 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 11:55 am to
At one moment in time I had four persons living under my roof who were current orthodontal customers.

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