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re: Female student forced to pee in bucket during class wins $1.3M
Posted on 1/27/17 at 12:12 pm to StarkRebel
Posted on 1/27/17 at 12:12 pm to StarkRebel
Looking back, it's hilarious to think we were told when we could and could not use the toilet.
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Posted on 1/27/17 at 12:13 pm to Corkfather
Except this isn't the action of a single teacher. The school was stupid enough to have this policy in the first place. As a result of this stupid policy, a teenage girl was permanently humiliated in front of her peers. This is something she will never forget or live down. This is a situation where the verdict is absolutely just.
Posted on 1/27/17 at 12:13 pm to NYNolaguy1
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The teacher, Gonja Wolf, forbid the 14-year-old girl from leaving the classroom that Wednesday in February 2012.
Did he physically hold her over the bucket and squeeze the piss out of her?
Why didn't she just leave the room and take the punishment. That's what I would've done when I was 14
Posted on 1/27/17 at 12:13 pm to BulldogXero
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Looking back, it's hilarious to think we were told when we could and could not use the toilet.
I can see why the policy is there. Kids these days, especially in the inner city, have no regard for anyone or anything. Let them have the privilege of going to the bathroom during class and the class would be empty because they're all in the bathrooms fighting and fricking.
Posted on 1/27/17 at 12:14 pm to NYNolaguy1
Back in college, pretty much as soon as class started a dude in the back row's hand shot up, and he asked, "May I please go to the restroom?".
The professor said, "No. Class just started." It was a small class at LSU with maybe 40 people in it.
A few minutes later, the dude asked again politely, and the teacher again, clearly annoyed, denied him.
No joke. This baw stood up, walked to the front of the class and ralphed his arse off into the small trashcan by the door.
The professor said, "No. Class just started." It was a small class at LSU with maybe 40 people in it.
A few minutes later, the dude asked again politely, and the teacher again, clearly annoyed, denied him.
No joke. This baw stood up, walked to the front of the class and ralphed his arse off into the small trashcan by the door.
This post was edited on 1/27/17 at 12:20 pm
Posted on 1/27/17 at 12:15 pm to NYNolaguy1
I see that the administration is the originator of the issue with making the policy zero tolerance, and the point I made about losing track of treating the students with basic human dignity applies to them as well. But if I were a teacher there is no way that I wold enforce that rule. If a student has to go then they have to go, and I'm not stopping them. It's just a basically decent way to treat people, and no stupid rule is preventing me from being decent.
If an individual abuses the privilege then you deal with it then on an individual level. They're probably mostly hurting themselves anyway. I just can't see trying to police such a basic human need. I would never go there with coworkers or employees who work beneath me, and they should never go there with students. It's basic decency that should be available to all people.
If an individual abuses the privilege then you deal with it then on an individual level. They're probably mostly hurting themselves anyway. I just can't see trying to police such a basic human need. I would never go there with coworkers or employees who work beneath me, and they should never go there with students. It's basic decency that should be available to all people.
Posted on 1/27/17 at 12:16 pm to JETigER
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The school has rules for a reason. The school rules are trying to protect her. She is suing a school that was trying to protect her with rules.
The school makes their own rules, sure. They also pay for them- well that's not really true, the ones who pay the taxes do. The school administrators most often see no punishment from this sort of thing, it's not like it's their money or anything
. Just to clarify, you still think a 14 year needs to get raped before she can sue? How many daughters do you have?
Posted on 1/27/17 at 12:19 pm to Breesus
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Why didn't she just leave the room and take the punishment. That's what I would've done when I was
They have in school police officers to deal with this sort of thing now. I am not sure you want to be on the receiving end of that at 14. It's a little different than Carrollton and Banks.
Posted on 1/27/17 at 12:20 pm to NYNolaguy1
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They have in school police officers to deal with this sort of thing now. I am not sure you want to be on the receiving end of that at 14.
The school has in house police to stop children from going to the bathroom?
If that's the case at schools now then we are beyond repair.
Posted on 1/27/17 at 12:22 pm to Corkfather
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I can see why the policy is there. Kids these days, especially in the inner city, have no regard for anyone or anything. Let them have the privilege of going to the bathroom during class and the class would be empty because they're all in the bathrooms fighting and fricking.
You're not interrupting class if you get up to go to the bathroom once or twice. Now it becomes an issue if you do it every day. You don't have to be so rigid as to say you have to have e my permission before you can use the restroom
Posted on 1/27/17 at 12:25 pm to Breesus
This policy is absurd. Bad kids won't obey the teacher and policy regardless. But good kids, those who are taught to respect and obey authority, will obey it for fear of getting trouble. The combination of a bad policy with an idiotic school employee created this young girl's trauma.
Posted on 1/27/17 at 12:27 pm to Breesus
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The school has in house police to stop children from going to the bathroom
Well they wouldn't call it that. They'd say it was stopping kids from disrupting class and walking out of the classroom unrecorded and unauthorized.
I know NYC has NYPD SRO at every public school to make sure there's no one walking the hallways that are supposed to be in class. Like I said, it's a different world than where I went to school.
Posted on 1/27/17 at 12:33 pm to NYNolaguy1
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$41,000 in medical costs
did she fall off the bucket?
This post was edited on 1/27/17 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 1/27/17 at 12:34 pm to MorbidTheClown
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she fall off the bucket?
She tried to kill herself after it happened.
Posted on 1/27/17 at 12:36 pm to NYNolaguy1
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know NYC has NYPD SRO at every public school to make sure there's no one walking the hallways that are supposed to be in class.
Classic case of treating the symptoms and not the problems. It's like giving someone cough medicine for cancer and emphysema.
Posted on 1/27/17 at 12:37 pm to NYNolaguy1
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It's a little different than Carrollton and Banks.
Momma's pride, momma's joy, momma's little Jesuit boy.
Posted on 1/27/17 at 12:37 pm to Corkfather
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Are you saying it was school policy to make kids piss in buckets?
No, it was school policy not to allow kids to go to the bathroom no matter what. Whether to have her pee in a bucket, on the floor or in her pants/dress/whatever was left to teacher discretion. Which would you have chosen?
Posted on 1/27/17 at 12:38 pm to NYNolaguy1
The teacher, the administration, and the school board members should be forced to pay a large portion of that settlement out of their own pockets for lack of discretion and common sense.
I bet that'd make these morons think critically about the problems facing their schools.
I bet that'd make these morons think critically about the problems facing their schools.
Posted on 1/27/17 at 12:38 pm to NYNolaguy1
It seems like the teacher should be punished - not the school system. Unless, the administration made a big point about "zero tolerance" and even used peeing in a bucket as an example.
Posted on 1/27/17 at 12:40 pm to Rocco Lampone
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It seems like the teacher should be punished - not the school system
This is a major problem. School boards and the teaching pool of public school are filled with morons free from all consequences. Anything that goes wrong is paid out by the tax payer and doesn't affect them personally. It's time to change that.
This post was edited on 1/27/17 at 12:47 pm
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