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Famed atheist and biologist calls the idea of more than two genders “utter nonsense”

Posted on 3/21/23 at 6:08 pm
Posted by High C
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Posted on 3/21/23 at 6:08 pm
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During a recent interview with British journalist Piers Morgan, famed atheist and biologist Richard Dawkins declared that "there are two sexes, and that’s all there is to it."


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He added that LGBTQ activists looking to discredit the reality of two biological sexes are pushing "utter nonsense."

Dawkins further noted that those going after Harry Potter author J.K. Rowling for her commitment to the reality of two sexes are "bullies."


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During their interview, Morgan trashed such language policing and the idea there aren't two sexes, saying, "I mean, it’s incontrovertible. There’s no scientific doubt about this." He also noted that a "small group of people have been quite successful actually in reshaping vast swathes of the way society talks and is allowed to talk."

Dawkins immediately discredited the entire movement by saying, "It’s bullying." Mentioning famous people who have been demonized for going against these activists, the renowned researcher added, "And we’ve seen the way J.K. Rowling has been bullied, Kathleen Stock has been bullied. They’ve stood up to it. But it’s very upsetting the way this tiny minority of people has managed to capture the discourse and really talk errant nonsense."


What they’re arguing should draw a gigantic “duh” from anyone with half a brain. The really scary part is what’s bolded, though.

Just a few days ago, the goalie for the San Jose Sharks refused to wear LGBTQA+ garb on some Pride Night thing because of his Christian faith, and it was on every media outlet I saw.

Rightspeak/Wrongspeak causing people to literally have their lives threatened.

Posted by BigAppleTiger
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Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Posted on 3/21/23 at 6:12 pm to
Not wrong to anyone with brain cells
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 3/21/23 at 6:12 pm to
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But it’s very upsetting the way this tiny minority of people has managed to capture the discourse and really talk errant nonsense."


This post was edited on 3/21/23 at 6:14 pm
Posted by HoboDickCheese
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Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 3/21/23 at 6:51 pm to
I am imagining the cuck who downvoted you sitting dutifully at his wife’s feet as she gets plowed by some dude they just met at Circle K.
Posted by Ghost of Colby
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Posted on 3/21/23 at 6:51 pm to
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Richard Dawkins

He always liked kissing the ladies.


Posted by Smeg
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Posted on 3/21/23 at 6:59 pm to
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"there are two sexes, and that’s all there is to it."
"it’s incontrovertible. There’s no scientific doubt about this."

Posted by BurlesonCountyAg
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Posted on 3/21/23 at 7:03 pm to
Science is racist
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 3/21/23 at 7:16 pm to
SEX AND GENDER ARE DIFFERENT

RICHARD DAWKINS MUST BE DESTROYED, Xir said
Posted by Blutarsky
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Posted on 3/21/23 at 7:20 pm to
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SEX AND GENDER ARE DIFFERENT


Believing that you are the opposite sex is a mental disorder.

-Opened Can of Worms
Posted by hellsu
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Posted on 3/21/23 at 7:21 pm to
Biologically females have the xx chromosomes and males have xy chromosomes. There are a very few exceptions but pretty much everything else is just feelings.
Posted by Bayou
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Posted on 3/21/23 at 7:36 pm to
There is male and female - END of story
Posted by 6R12
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Posted on 3/22/23 at 12:25 am to
tiny minority is right
Posted by Richard Grayson
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Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 3/22/23 at 6:02 am to
Gender has nothing to do with sex. Anyone claiming there are more than 2 biological sexes is either an idiot or ignorant of biology. Gender, on the other hand, is a societal/cultural construct that has nothing at all to do with biology or plumbing or reproduction.

Almost every human being ever born had biological traits which defined their biological sex in one of two that actually exist. I am no expert but there are stories of babies being born with biological traits of both biological sexes so wouldn't be accurate to say ALL but the vast majority is correct.

That is completely separate from Gender, however. Gender is based on societal and cultural norms, behaviors or expectations. Gender is about one's perception of themselves as well as societies perception. Most children at some point experiment with gender. Tom boys are a well known thing that exists...thats why there is a term for it. Boys also usually do this and will pretend to be their mother by wearing her shoes, maybe smearing lipstick on themselves and anything that will stand for it, and playing with dolls and whatnot. The fact that there are "girl" toys and "boy" toys for kids and adults adhere to that construct when buying gifts for children indicate that we inutuitevly know that gender is a cultural construct with no correlation to biology. Clothes are the same. Most children eventually confirm to the gender identification that is considered "normal" by society without a second thought, and this is usually in line with their biological sex. This isn't always the case...in fact women, both biological and in terms of gender, have shifted their gender significantly in the last 100 years or so. It wasn't that long ago that an unmarried woman with no kids who worked for a living and wore pants was considered strange...by both men and women. Men have also undergone a significant shift in their gender roles....society would have been almost shocked to find a father in the 1950's who could change a diaper as well as his kids mother...anyone who has had a child since about 1990 knows this ain't the case anymore. Gender roles are fluid, regardless of what anyone would like to think otherwise. It is acceptable today, for example, for a man to stay home and take care of the house and kids while his wife earns a living. Most of us will make some snide comment about this but it wasn't that long ago that it was unheard of and almost impossible for a woman to pull off. It is very common today for a woman to be an integral part of a families income when it wasn't that long ago that this was something almost reserved exclusively for men.

The problem people seem to have today is the individual who does not identify their gender in the manner which society of culture dictates. They exist and always have. There is nothing inherently evil or insane about this...most of pick and choose what societal and cultural norms we adhere to. Many people are devoutly religious, some are not. It isn't a mental illness either way. A woman who wears clothing that most would see as male in nature, who works in a job that is dominated by men, drinks beer and in most ways identifies as man is not insane, that person is just different than what society would consider "normal". The same is true of a man who can communicate and has sense of style.

The danger, in my opinion, is 2 fold. First the obvious...pretending thar sex and gender are synonymous. The people who claim there are more than 2 sexes are just wrong but those who claim there are only 2 genders are equally wrong. Either forcing their world view on the other is also wrong. If a man in a dress disturbs you beyond mild irritation that is a personal issue on you, the same as it would be if that man was disturbed by a woman in a dress. We can not dictate how other people identify themselves...the people who claim more than two sexes want to do this and those who claim there are only 2 genders are equally wrong in their desire to dictate to others what may be 2 of the most initimate things an individal has, their biological sex and their gender identity.
Posted by taylork37
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 3/22/23 at 6:16 am to
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The people who claim there are more than 2 sexes are just wrong


What most people don't realize is that the vast majority of trans people and activists believe there are only two sexes.
This post was edited on 3/22/23 at 6:24 am
Posted by USMCguy121
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Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 3/22/23 at 6:24 am to
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If a man in a dress disturbs you beyond mild irritation that is a personal issue on you, the same as it would be if that man was disturbed by a woman in a dress. We can not dictate how other people identify themselves


Who upvoted this shite, the frick is up with this site now.

Your made out victims are the ones trying to force their twisted worldview and dictate to everyone else, up to cancelling you if you dare to disagree.

And that's not even touching the very obvious concerted effort to expose and push this onto children.
This post was edited on 3/22/23 at 6:25 am
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 3/22/23 at 6:53 am to
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Your made out victims are the ones trying to force their twisted worldview and dictate to everyone else, up to cancelling you if you dare to disagree.


No one is my victim but what you have written can be applied to both sides of the issue. Folks who are put out by people who refuse to be identified by society or culture are most definitely forcing their world view on others and have been canceling the other side since time out of mind...and that trend is growing more and more aggressive to the point of making refusing to accept societies identification of the individual a crime.

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And that's not even touching the very obvious concerted effort to expose and push this onto children.


It is only "obvious" to someone suffering from irrational fears that a man in a dress is bent on destroying society based on nothing more than it is a man in a dress. It certainly is concerted in that the media has taken up stories in order to sale advertising and people on both sides have seized on this in order to promote their own worldview. Drag queen story hour will only expose kids to drag queens IF their parents take them to drag queen story hour. That is a parental decision that is no one else's business, my friend. Would you be happy if the state forced you to take your kid? Of course not...it is none of the state's business and none of anyone's business but the parent.

Using gender nuetral or preferred pronouns in schools without parental notification speaks volumes about the parents, not the school. If a parent is disturbed to find out their child is claiming to be a gender the parent did not know about in school that is on the parent for being a shitty parent and not knowing their child as well as their peers and teachers. Again, no one is damaging that child but the parent. No one is pushing anything on children beyond the typical societal pressures used to force children into the gender roles defined for them by society and culture. Most children accept those roles without a second thought but some do not....that is the business of them and their parents, not me and you or the state.
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
53810 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 6:54 am to
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And that's not even touching the very obvious concerted effort to expose and push this onto children.


That effort is having their desired effect.

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