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Fair counter for a job offer

Posted on 2/9/15 at 12:28 pm
Posted by BoogaBear
Member since Jul 2013
5561 posts
Posted on 2/9/15 at 12:28 pm
I can talk salary with a bunch of Internet people that don't know me so here goes.

Received a job offer today that was lower than what I expected or would willingly accept. The offer was for 78k and I was hoping for 80 or above, hopefully closer to 85.

My current salary is around 72k and I'll be getting a small increase next month putting me around 75k. Leaving for 3k more isn't exactly what I wanted to do.

So first question, would it be fair to counter and say I wanted to be closer to 85k?

Second, what's the best way to go about this? Explain that my current salary will soon be close or just say I was hoping for 85k and see what happens?
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 2/9/15 at 12:30 pm to
poor
Posted by Kingwood Tiger
Katy, TX
Member since Jul 2005
14162 posts
Posted on 2/9/15 at 12:30 pm to
Tell them you want 95K
Posted by SonOfMike
Austin, TX
Member since Oct 2007
5886 posts
Posted on 2/9/15 at 12:30 pm to
Counter with 85. The worst they can say is no.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43103 posts
Posted on 2/9/15 at 12:30 pm to
You can absolutely counter. If you want to be near 85, then tell them you were hoping for 88-89 range. (then shut up don't say anything else, less is more)
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71390 posts
Posted on 2/9/15 at 12:30 pm to
quote:

So first question, would it be fair to counter and say I wanted to be closer to 85k?



Don't say closer.

quote:

Second, what's the best way to go about this? Explain that my current salary will soon be close or just say I was hoping for 85k and see what happens?



Just counter with 87k.
Posted by lsufanintexas
Member since Sep 2006
5011 posts
Posted on 2/9/15 at 12:30 pm to
Yeah don't leave unless you hate your job or the new money is awesomely better. A 3k bump is nothing to switch jobs is nothing.
Posted by Asgard Device
The Daedalus
Member since Apr 2011
11562 posts
Posted on 2/9/15 at 12:31 pm to
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My current salary is around 72k


I hope you're single and under 25.
Posted by Placebeaux
Bobby Fischer Fan Club President
Member since Jun 2008
51852 posts
Posted on 2/9/15 at 12:31 pm to
Are there more benefits with this company?
Posted by Mr. Wayne
Member since Feb 2008
10047 posts
Posted on 2/9/15 at 12:32 pm to
quote:

I hope you're single and under 25.



Why's that? What if he is married and his wife makes the same or more? Wouldn't that be better? Love fake OT rich guys.
Posted by GoHoGsGo06
Member since Nov 2006
5739 posts
Posted on 2/9/15 at 12:32 pm to
You need to explain why you are worth the extra you are asking for; and you better delievered on it. If you can back it up, go for it. Additionally you can haggle over vacation/time off if money isn't on the table anymore.
Posted by JB Bama
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Sep 2008
2669 posts
Posted on 2/9/15 at 12:32 pm to
Since you are in good standing with your current employer you've got the power in this negotiation. My counter would depend on my relationship with the potential new employer. If this is someone you have a personal relationship with I'd be very open and honest and give them the amount it would take for you to leave your current position.

If this is a company that you aren't concerned with the repercussions I'd tell them their offer isn't a significant difference from your current salary and to consider relocating/changing careers, you would expect a salary around $85k.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 2/9/15 at 12:32 pm to
He'd be slummin it
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
66413 posts
Posted on 2/9/15 at 12:32 pm to
tell them you were thinking 200k and maybe theyll counteroffer with 140k
Posted by Asgard Device
The Daedalus
Member since Apr 2011
11562 posts
Posted on 2/9/15 at 12:34 pm to
quote:

Why's that? What if he is married and his wife makes the same or more? Wouldn't that be better? Love fake OT rich guys.



You can't support a family with only $72k/yr pre-tax.
Posted by BoogaBear
Member since Jul 2013
5561 posts
Posted on 2/9/15 at 12:36 pm to
I think I will say 85 and see what happens.

I don't think they will just take the offer off the table or anything, is what my concern is.

What is a reasonable time frame to counter? I just got the offer this morning.
Posted by Mr. Wayne
Member since Feb 2008
10047 posts
Posted on 2/9/15 at 12:36 pm to
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Yeah don't leave unless you hate your job or the new money is awesomely better. A 3k bump is nothing to switch jobs is nothing


This. Unless you hate your job or you are maxed out, you won't feel an extra 3k. Tell them you need 87k. If they want you, they will probably counter btw 82-84. Your choice to accept or try for 85 again..
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71390 posts
Posted on 2/9/15 at 12:37 pm to
quote:

I hope you're single and under 25.



OT Rich guy over here.
Posted by BoogaBear
Member since Jul 2013
5561 posts
Posted on 2/9/15 at 12:38 pm to
Haha if you can't support a family on 72k then you're doing it wrong dude.

I have a wife and a kid. We save my wife's entire income and live off of mine. We're even building a house right now.

I really love the folks on this board who act like you need 200k to raise a family.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
97632 posts
Posted on 2/9/15 at 12:38 pm to
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You can't support a family with only $72k/yr pre-tax.





Some of you are just plain retarded
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