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re: Explosion at Marathon in Garyville
Posted on 2/21/22 at 12:35 pm to TigerTatorTots
Posted on 2/21/22 at 12:35 pm to TigerTatorTots
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hydrocracker
Dibs on the alter!
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Posted on 2/21/22 at 12:42 pm to lake chuck fan
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Most if not all the contractors won't be in unit.
there were a few contractors. minor injuries.
Posted on 2/21/22 at 12:52 pm to monsterballads
Does anyone know which unit it is?
Posted on 2/21/22 at 12:53 pm to monsterballads
Birdseed apparently drug up and is at Eggheads right now.
Posted on 2/21/22 at 12:55 pm to DuckManiak
Old operators have lost the incentive to beat the new ones out of a chair to make them learn something, is what I think you meant. Upper management has become so clueless as to real world operation they have no teeth to demand knowledge that they themselves don’t have and no spine to discipline laziness because of politics. I’m glad my tour of duty is near the end, my patience for stupidity above and below is at a career low
Glad nobody was hurt
Glad nobody was hurt
Posted on 2/21/22 at 12:56 pm to Redbone
I retired in 2018 as a Training Coordinator. It was frustrating training new young technicians that already knew everything! That alone made my decision to retire early a good one!
Posted on 2/21/22 at 1:03 pm to kfaulk03
From the picture, it kind of looks like 56/57
Posted on 2/21/22 at 1:28 pm to bootlegger
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Must've been pretty big....lots of people here in Ponchatoula saying they felt it
Hmmm. It is 26 miles as the crow flies to Ponchatoula from the plant and only 21 to my house in St Amant and I didnt feel or hear it.
Posted on 2/21/22 at 2:07 pm to pochejp
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Hmmm. It is 26 miles as the crow flies to Ponchatoula from the plant and only 21 to my house in St Amant and I didnt feel or hear it.
Depends on where you were. I was inside Rouse’s in Ponchatoula and didn’t hear it. When I got home, my daughter said that she heard it and felt the vibration inside the house. The dogs freaked out.
Posted on 2/21/22 at 2:14 pm to pochejp
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It is 26 miles as the crow flies to Ponchatoula from the plant and only 21 to my house in St Amant and I didnt feel or hear it.
Whe. You get on the Manchac Bridge in Ponchy you can see Garyville. Nothing really to slow the soundwave down.
Posted on 2/21/22 at 2:21 pm to DuckManiak
quote:Pretty much my experience as well. Or maybe it's not that they don't want to train. It's that they get frustrated that a person with five years' experience doesn't have the same knowledge that a person with 30 years has. So that person is called stupid, worthless, etc. You learn to blow the old farts like that off. But you pretty much nailed it though with that statement.
Old operators don’t give a shite about training young guys. Sit in their retirement home unit, and talk about how clueless new operators are. Every plant, same scenario.
Posted on 2/21/22 at 2:23 pm to Tigerrganz
quote:They have those in every unit as well. Those types usually get themselves in a bind though, after a while. They'll pretend like they know what they're doing and frick something up really bad.
It was frustrating training new young technicians that already knew everything!
Posted on 2/21/22 at 4:07 pm to RealityTiger
since this was a start-up incident
In the mid 1970's the operational staff and technology folks associated with a complex unit held a three day meeting describing efforts to increase throughput. the meeting had a lot of proposals to invest 2-15 million dollars for a project specific improvement of .1-.5 % which across the huge product flow was financially interesting. Even though, paymeter accuracy could not show the result.
A young engineer put together a proposal for a rapid and orderly start-up procedure that he had developed with the shift. A senior guy set up the question, what's it worth before any detail was given. The unit due to severe conditions and complex controls had averaged a total of 24 trips per year with restart taking 2.5 days. Program cost was 100 g for large valve motor operators, a couple controlle
rs and and a couple weeks over time duty for operators to develop the best sequence to be used by all. Annual process throughput was estimated to improve by 5% easily verified by on stream records.
Yes there were lots of technology applied by others to reduce equipment failures and trips in the first place, that had been slow over the last years.
2 takeaways
Most serious process disasters occur during startup and shutdowns
to trouble shoot an existing process, I would prefer the existing operators involvement by far, over contractors or off site technologist .
Posted on 2/21/22 at 4:32 pm to Geauxfore
24 miles from there and it shook my house
Posted on 2/21/22 at 8:07 pm to pochejp
quote:We did. I'm close to Port Vincent.
my house in St Amant and I didnt feel or hear it.
Posted on 2/21/22 at 8:24 pm to Geauxfore
My nephew works there and was working when it happened. He said it could have been really bad but thankfully no one seriously hurt. Only one person sustained minor injuries.
Posted on 2/21/22 at 8:34 pm to Nynna11
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my daughter said that she heard it and felt the vibration inside
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