Page 1
Page 1
Started By
Message

Engineering/Pavement Question

Posted on 2/12/16 at 12:32 am
Posted by TheJunction
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2014
955 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 12:32 am
Whats up guys. Today a professor made a comment in passing that I didnt think of much when he said it, but its bugging me right now..

He said that the aggregates used in MS Highways wouldnt be allowed in most states. Why is that?

Just curious, thanks for any responses
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76305 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 12:33 am to
I don't know


Sorry I'm not much help.
Posted by TheJunction
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2014
955 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 1:06 am to
haha its okay buddy
Posted by DixonCider
H-Town
Member since Nov 2015
398 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 2:13 am to
Not a professional or engineer but I would imagine it could be a few things. If they wouldn't be allowed in other states my first thought is environmental concerns. Aside from that different aggregates are going to react much differently to subgrade conditions, as well as water and salt seeping into concrete over time, so maybe something along those lines.
Posted by TheJunction
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2014
955 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 7:27 am to
Oh ok, maybe that's it! I wish I had asked my professor after he made the comment
Posted by lsuCJ5
Holly Springs, NC
Member since Nov 2012
962 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 7:32 am to
could be the alkali content of the stone, and or soundness and abrasion properties as well. Other states probably have higher standards than MDOT.
Posted by Pouvoir Cadien
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2012
14 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 7:34 am to
I'm assuming your professor was referring to gravel aggregate. Mississippi, particularly in southern Mississippi, typically uses natural gravel which is fairly absorptive. Natural gravels and sands are rounded on the surface and therefore need further processing (i.e. crushing) to provide angularity.
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
38976 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 7:45 am to
This what civil engineers ponder? I always wondered.
Posted by Kujo
225-911-5736
Member since Dec 2015
6015 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 7:47 am to
quote:

He said that the aggregates used in MS Highways wouldnt be allowed in most states. Why is that?


windshield repair

erosion exposes pebbles
Posted by HeavyHauler
Member since Feb 2016
2 posts
Posted on 2/13/16 at 11:53 am to
i thought this interesting so i reviewed the specs from MDOT. they specifically allow the use of shell as an asphalt aggregate. LADOT does not identify that in their standards and specs. i do not know if that is what he was referring to but if you get more info from him please let us know.
Posted by potent357
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2010
4033 posts
Posted on 2/13/16 at 2:18 pm to
FWIW, Mississippi roads are better than Louisiana roads.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
65678 posts
Posted on 2/13/16 at 3:35 pm to
Washed River Rock gravel (used in many areas of MS & LA):



Crushed Granite (wonderful for use in concrete):



Crushed limestone (used in places along the MS River) looks similar to the crushed granite, but the stone itself is not nearly as hard as granite (or River Rock) and is more absorptive (than both granite or River Rock) which can be problematic when limestone is used for concrete aggregate.

Shell may still be approved for use by MDOT in concrete but it has not been commercially available for two-plus decades due to environmental issues which stopped shell dredging in the coastal waters of LA & MS.
Posted by HeavyHauler
Member since Feb 2016
2 posts
Posted on 2/13/16 at 5:39 pm to
does limestone's chemical makeup (calcium carbonate CaCO3) weaken concrete somehow?
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
65678 posts
Posted on 2/13/16 at 6:02 pm to
Quite the contrary. It compliments the Portland Cement's hydration process.

Posted by AUbagman
LA
Member since Jun 2014
10568 posts
Posted on 2/13/16 at 6:10 pm to
Aggregates used are usually readily available locally. It might be that aggregate used on MS highways react more harshly to acidic conditions, which is a bigger problem in states that burn coal for electricity (east coast) as the rain is more acidic.
This post was edited on 2/13/16 at 6:14 pm
first pageprev pagePage 1 of 1Next pagelast page
refresh

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookTwitterInstagram