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Engineering/Pavement Question
Posted on 2/12/16 at 12:32 am
Posted on 2/12/16 at 12:32 am
Whats up guys. Today a professor made a comment in passing that I didnt think of much when he said it, but its bugging me right now..
He said that the aggregates used in MS Highways wouldnt be allowed in most states. Why is that?
Just curious, thanks for any responses
He said that the aggregates used in MS Highways wouldnt be allowed in most states. Why is that?
Just curious, thanks for any responses
Posted on 2/12/16 at 12:33 am to TheJunction
I don't know
Sorry I'm not much help.
Sorry I'm not much help.
Posted on 2/12/16 at 2:13 am to TheJunction
Not a professional or engineer but I would imagine it could be a few things. If they wouldn't be allowed in other states my first thought is environmental concerns. Aside from that different aggregates are going to react much differently to subgrade conditions, as well as water and salt seeping into concrete over time, so maybe something along those lines.
Posted on 2/12/16 at 7:27 am to DixonCider
Oh ok, maybe that's it! I wish I had asked my professor after he made the comment
Posted on 2/12/16 at 7:32 am to TheJunction
could be the alkali content of the stone, and or soundness and abrasion properties as well. Other states probably have higher standards than MDOT.
Posted on 2/12/16 at 7:34 am to TheJunction
I'm assuming your professor was referring to gravel aggregate. Mississippi, particularly in southern Mississippi, typically uses natural gravel which is fairly absorptive. Natural gravels and sands are rounded on the surface and therefore need further processing (i.e. crushing) to provide angularity.
Posted on 2/12/16 at 7:45 am to TheJunction
This what civil engineers ponder? I always wondered.
Posted on 2/12/16 at 7:47 am to TheJunction
quote:
He said that the aggregates used in MS Highways wouldnt be allowed in most states. Why is that?
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Posted on 2/13/16 at 11:53 am to TheJunction
i thought this interesting so i reviewed the specs from MDOT. they specifically allow the use of shell as an asphalt aggregate. LADOT does not identify that in their standards and specs. i do not know if that is what he was referring to but if you get more info from him please let us know.
Posted on 2/13/16 at 2:18 pm to TheJunction
FWIW, Mississippi roads are better than Louisiana roads.
Posted on 2/13/16 at 3:35 pm to TheJunction
Washed River Rock gravel (used in many areas of MS & LA):
Crushed Granite (wonderful for use in concrete):
Crushed limestone (used in places along the MS River) looks similar to the crushed granite, but the stone itself is not nearly as hard as granite (or River Rock) and is more absorptive (than both granite or River Rock) which can be problematic when limestone is used for concrete aggregate.
Shell may still be approved for use by MDOT in concrete but it has not been commercially available for two-plus decades due to environmental issues which stopped shell dredging in the coastal waters of LA & MS.
Crushed Granite (wonderful for use in concrete):
Crushed limestone (used in places along the MS River) looks similar to the crushed granite, but the stone itself is not nearly as hard as granite (or River Rock) and is more absorptive (than both granite or River Rock) which can be problematic when limestone is used for concrete aggregate.
Shell may still be approved for use by MDOT in concrete but it has not been commercially available for two-plus decades due to environmental issues which stopped shell dredging in the coastal waters of LA & MS.
Posted on 2/13/16 at 5:39 pm to soccerfüt
does limestone's chemical makeup (calcium carbonate CaCO3) weaken concrete somehow?
Posted on 2/13/16 at 6:02 pm to HeavyHauler
Quite the contrary. It compliments the Portland Cement's hydration process.
Posted on 2/13/16 at 6:10 pm to TheJunction
Aggregates used are usually readily available locally. It might be that aggregate used on MS highways react more harshly to acidic conditions, which is a bigger problem in states that burn coal for electricity (east coast) as the rain is more acidic.
This post was edited on 2/13/16 at 6:14 pm
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