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Posted on 2/3/16 at 1:09 pm
Posted by redbaron
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Posted on 2/3/16 at 1:09 pm
Trying to find burst/collapse of a cylinder. At one cross section there are multiple tapped holes that get pretty close to penetrating the ID.

Any ideas on determining this without FEA?
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 2/3/16 at 1:09 pm to
Tree fiddy.
Posted by white perch
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Posted on 2/3/16 at 1:13 pm to
288
Posted by East Coast Band
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Posted on 2/3/16 at 1:14 pm to
quote:

Trying to find burst/collapse of a cylinder

Need to crush a beer can against your forehead?
Posted by Upperdecker
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Posted on 2/3/16 at 1:14 pm to
Try reading the textbook, studying, and going to your professor's office hours. No one is going to do the work for you in the real world
Posted by ksayetiger
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Posted on 2/3/16 at 1:15 pm to
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penetrating the ID. 



Hope that id is tight enough and she aint some skank hoe
Posted by BIWO
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Posted on 2/3/16 at 1:16 pm to
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Posted by Pectus
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Posted on 2/3/16 at 1:16 pm to
What is the cylinder made of?

What is the temperature?

Where is the specific gravity?

What is the pressure in mm Hg?
This post was edited on 2/3/16 at 1:17 pm
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 2/3/16 at 1:16 pm to
You could assuming the OD is the bottom of the deepest hole and do that. I think that would be absurdly conservative, but it's a start.

FEA would be the only way that I'm aware of to truly determine the effect that would have on fail pressure.
Posted by weskarl
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Posted on 2/3/16 at 1:18 pm to
Depends on what kind of vessel. I'd de-rate linearly from original wall thickness but I sure as shite wouldn't pressure up until I had a new stamp.
Posted by thegreatboudini
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Posted on 2/3/16 at 1:21 pm to
You're a geologist.
Posted by Bootyrich
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Posted on 2/3/16 at 1:21 pm to
p × r² × h
Posted by Pectus
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Posted on 2/3/16 at 1:22 pm to
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You're a geologist.



Everything on Earth is made from materials from Earth.


Try again.
Posted by thegreatboudini
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Posted on 2/3/16 at 1:23 pm to
Except humans, we're made of star dust.

Posted by CarRamrod
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Posted on 2/3/16 at 1:31 pm to
quote:

Everything on Earth is made from materials from Earth.

not true.
This Paperweight is made from materials not from this earth.
Posted by Engineer
Member since Dec 2015
277 posts
Posted on 2/3/16 at 1:55 pm to
You mean a tubular.

Burst disks on tubulars are usually milled to a thickness that causes it to fail at a certain internal or external pressure. If you knew where this came from, you could just look it up.

That's about all you can do without some more info.
Posted by Gaston
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Posted on 2/3/16 at 1:57 pm to
Small diameter holes shouldn't effect it at all. Many layered vessels have weep holes which penetrate to the inside she'll course with no affect to the MAWP. Do you need the burst pressure equations?
Posted by Boston911
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Posted on 2/3/16 at 2:00 pm to
Assuming you could use Barlows formula on an ideal cylinder, but it won't take into account the holes that are nearly penetrating the ID
Posted by TheAlmightySmash
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 2/3/16 at 2:01 pm to
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penetrating the ID


ID penetrate
Posted by Hammertime
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Posted on 2/3/16 at 2:08 pm to
Thinnest portion would be the OD. Pretty easy pressure calculations after that (gotta get material specs though)
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