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Employee surveillance gone too far?

Posted on 3/14/17 at 8:49 am
Posted by LSU Fan SLU Grad
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2006
4893 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 8:49 am
Trained a new employee yesterday. His previous job ended badly when he was confronted by the owner and his boss asking why he spent 3 hours at a competitor's facility. Turns out his employer was tracking his company phone via GPS. Note: he took a vacation day when on the interview.

Thoughts?
Posted by tke857
Member since Jan 2012
12195 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 8:50 am to
I would have told my boss I was scoping out the competition.
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167317 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 8:50 am to
Why did he take a company phone on his day off to a job interview?
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83586 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 8:50 am to
quote:

company phone


no issues

if I had a company phone, I would assume my company could track me, just like I assume they can track me when I'm in the company truck

Posted by guedeaux
Tardis
Member since Jan 2008
13611 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 8:50 am to
quote:

Thoughts?


He should turn his work phone off when taking PTO.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
32714 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 8:51 am to
If it is a company phone, that is their right to do so.

My guess is that they have had problems in the past with employees going on long "sales calls" or something.
This post was edited on 3/14/17 at 8:52 am
Posted by TheAlmightySmash
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2014
5479 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 8:51 am to
quote:

Why did he take a company phone on his day off to a job interview?


More than likely gets a reimbursement check for using his personal phone. If not then yea that's dumb.
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
14811 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 8:52 am to
quote:

His previous job ended badly when he was confronted by the owner and his boss asking why he spent 3 hours at a competitor's facility.


He told you this? Dumb dumb stupidhead didn't even learn.
Posted by Scooba
Member since Jun 2013
19999 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 8:52 am to
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Turns out his employer was tracking his company phone via GPS


Your new employee isn't too bright.
Posted by LSUwag
Florida man
Member since Jan 2007
17319 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 8:55 am to
My previous employer tracked our phones, cars, land line phone calls, computers and building movements.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20483 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 8:55 am to
Why would they track him on his day off? unless he submitted his pto after the fact? If it was a 100% paid company phone I don't have an issue with it, but I don't know why the company would need to do that? IMO if you can't trust your employees better than the two of you should part ways.
Posted by gmrkr5
NC
Member since Jul 2009
14892 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 8:56 am to
if you think you have any privacy while driving someone else's car, talking on their phone, or sending email on their computer you are sadly mistaken.
Posted by LSU Fan SLU Grad
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2006
4893 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 8:57 am to
Is it required for an employer to disclose that they will be tracking you?
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 9:00 am to
If he was approved PTO seems a little weird that they were still looking at the GPS on the phone. Obviously they have the right to look when on the clock, but it seems like they went and looked what he was doing while he was off. That seems a little snoopy to me, definitely not somewhere I would want to work.

ETA that said I would't have brought the phone with me because it could obviously be tracked.
This post was edited on 3/14/17 at 9:09 am
Posted by LSU Fan SLU Grad
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2006
4893 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 9:05 am to
That's how I feel. I get wanting to track your employee while on the clock, but on a vacation day it's intrusive and unethical.
Posted by Dont_Call_Me_RAY
Member since Feb 2017
1439 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 9:12 am to
You may want to track your new employee
Posted by GingerMerkin
Member since Oct 2012
811 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 9:12 am to
Can they track you if you turn the location off on your phone?
Posted by 10888bge
H-Town
Member since Aug 2011
8421 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 9:17 am to
I get the company wanting to track their property, they own/pay you for it's use. But this guy should have known hi employers would track it.
I have a personal phone that I am partially reimbursed for with no req. to install software. If I were to get the 2nd level of reimbursement then I would be subject to search of my phone for any reason and it being tracked. Some common sense goes a long way in most scenarios.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
21916 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 9:32 am to
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More than likely gets a reimbursement check for using his personal phone.


Nope. If company was just reimbursing him for using his personal cell phone, then the company wouldn't have access to track the phone. They could only track a phone that was company issued.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
103106 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 9:39 am to
Any company that needs to waste time and resources surveiling their employees must do a short job of hiring and managing performance.

If I hired anyone I would expect them to manage themselves and their time. If they prove they can't do that up to standard then get rid of them and fix your hiring process.
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