re: Ebola vs. Enterovirus D68: H2H toll on Americans

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Much, much more of the lower mortality rate you are going to see with the people in the US (which will very likely be more than 3, but it will also be far, far less than in Africa) will be because of clean rooms, good nutrition, generally healthy people, and a host of drugs and fluids that have been in use for decades

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Great points. In addition, we will be far less likely to have people saying it's a hoax and refusing treatment and/or breaking into hospitals to get sick patients out. So with the poor conditions and infrastructure combined with their detrimental behaviors, their mortality rate has to be the exteme upper bound.

And this all could have prevented if we kept the mfer quarantined... It's hilarious how many idiots work in the CDC.

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is the first time a deadly ebola strain has really gotten outside of more rural parts of Africa and into more populated areas

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Nigeria has handled this pretty well. Given that it is has a large population (about 5 times more densely populated than the US), and limited resources compared the US, and that is pretty promising.

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And this all could have prevented if we kept the mfer quarantined... It's hilarious how many idiots work in the CDC.

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Well to this point, the only people that for sure got it from him were the ones treating him. And they supposedly got it before he was diagnosed. The CDC can't prevent everything. But I do agree that telling the nurse with a fever she could get on a plane was a bad idea if true, and her traveling in general was a bad idea. Mostly (if true) letting like 70 people be around and treat the dude was dumb.

Correct me if I am wrong, but did they not bring the guy to the ER just to tell him that he could go back home?

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But I do agree that telling the nurse with a fever she could get on a plane was a bad idea if true, and her traveling in general was a bad idea. Mostly (if true) letting like 70 people be around and treat the dude was dumb.

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Very true. Definitely not a very bright idea. I guess it is a pretty tough situation since Ebola isn't curable and you can contract it just by someone coughing up spit/other bodily fluids on you. If I recall, the guy in Dallas threw up and the nurse touched it, correct?

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Correct me if I am wrong, but did they not bring the guy to the ER just to tell him that he could go back home?

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You are correct, mostly. He brought himself in and was told he did not meet criteria for admission. I am curious as to how you are linking the ED Physicians and Hospitalists at the hospital he went to with the CDC.

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Correct me if I am wrong, but did they not bring the guy to the ER just to tell him that he could go back home?

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I think he went in, and they missed diagnosed and released him. Then he came back later worse off.. but I'm not positive.

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If I recall, the guy in Dallas threw up and the nurse touched it, correct?

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Not really sure how they got it, but did read both nurses that have it were exposed to him before he was positively diagnosed with it.

Honestly if everyone that is working in the health care field would start wearing masks, gloves, and using hand sanitizer all the time it would definitely slow this type of thing WAY down.

Hell, why not make everyone put on a mask and wash their hands with sanitizer as soon as they walk into any health care facility? Those things are cheap compared to treating diseases, illness, and infections.

I'd feel better going in for a regular check up if I didn't have to sit in a waiting room full of people sniffling and coughing without covering their face during flu season.

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I wasn't saying we should have, just saying that is probably why there isn't a cure.

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What other viruses have we cured? Maybe a vaccine wouldn't be a waste but spending $ on a cure would be.

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So far we haven't been and that's why one person has managed to give it to two people... but it was early on and the threat wasn't in our face. Now that it is, I expect it to be dealt with appropriately and the threat die pretty soon.

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Agreed. People will probably become overly cautious. Nurses from the Cleveland Clinic and Metrohealth that were on the flight with the new patient are now on paid leave. They probably weren't anywhere close to the woman. I don't think it's a bad idea for the hospitals to do that, but you would probably never see that in West Africa (although it might be because they need for the nurses outweighs the risk there).

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Well the good news is that Ebola is no biggie here, if anything people should worry about a real contagious disease in the US like this D68 or other flus.

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Would you rather have sex with a girl with D68 or Ebola?

How bout Aids or D68?

Just cause there aren't as many cases and it isn't as easily spread doesn't mean you shouldn't treat it seriously.

I'm pretty sure the flu, car accidents, lightning, etc killed more people than Aids during its high epidemic years... should we have just kept acting like it was no big deal too?