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re: Doll test proves that all of your kids are racist

Posted on 1/19/16 at 8:46 pm to
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
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Posted on 1/19/16 at 8:46 pm to
That is your weakest attempt yet
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 1/19/16 at 8:46 pm to
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I got it. Racism only occurs when people are hanged or there are separate water fountains. On a more serious note, kids get values and beliefs from all over school, home, friends, etc.. And by the way, Mexicans do not talk about sex anymore when regular whiteys


The connotation for a word changes over time. The term racist encapsulates way too much now. Pointing out that Asians study more is deemed racist even when you go to the library and there are is inevitably a disproportionate amount of Asians studying at any given moment.

Sorry to say, there are certain traits that people grouping take on that make us different.

Also, machismo in Hispanic society sexualizes their boys at an earlier age. My daughter's observation is real and not racist. I explained the phenomenon of machismo and have no regrets.
This post was edited on 1/19/16 at 8:47 pm
Posted by Mohican
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/19/16 at 8:49 pm to
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Racism only occurs when people are hanged or there are separate water fountains.



Ok. So we've established that first impressions occur on the basis of race (a well known fact).


What should we do about first impressions?
Posted by tennvol
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 1/19/16 at 8:50 pm to
Different races have different traits, that is just reality.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 1/19/16 at 8:53 pm to
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However, most kids are going to choose one or the other and go with what they think the interviewer wants to hear.
That's a huge presumption on your part, and it's baseless. You don't know the race of all of the interviewers and as tangerine said, many of these tests have interviewers that the kids can't see.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
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Posted on 1/19/16 at 8:55 pm to
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This post was edited on 1/19/16 at 9:11 pm
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 1/19/16 at 8:56 pm to
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I am sure these little biddy kids are well versed in those stats
You think the kids are well versed in crime stats? Wow. The logical leaps and apologetic assumptions are really flying off of your keyboard.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56272 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 8:57 pm to
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Or maybe there is an innate distrust in the animal kingdom of those not of your "tribe".
Then why do the black kids choose the black doll as the "bad" one?

Did you watch the video?
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
12977 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 8:58 pm to
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That's a huge presumption on your part, and it's baseless. You don't know the race of all of the interviewers and as tangerine said, many of these tests have interviewers that the kids can't see.


It is a presumption. We have to make presumptions in life because not all the dots are connected. You can presume that the methodology was without bias. I can presume you're stupid for it too. All of us presume everyday and all the time.

At the end of the day, I treat people with dignity. Even if I think they are more likely to be "naughty" later in life.
This post was edited on 1/19/16 at 9:00 pm
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge LA
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 1/19/16 at 9:05 pm to
Agree with that link. Thanks
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge LA
Member since Sep 2006
36113 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 9:07 pm to
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You think the kids are well versed in crime stats? Wow. The logical leaps and apologetic assumptions are really flying off of your keyboard.

Not in the least. I was being sarcastic.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56272 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 9:18 pm to
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It is a presumption. We have to make presumptions in life because not all the dots are connected
No we don't, and we certainly don't have to form conclusions based on presumption as you have done.
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I can presume you're stupid for it too
You seem very emotional.
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I treat people with dignity
So do most people. It's not an accomplishment.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
123958 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 9:21 pm to
I posted that I hadn't watched it when I wrote that. Thought it was a different one I'd seen.
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
12977 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 9:27 pm to
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No we don't, and we certainly don't have to form conclusions based on presumption as you have done.


The title of the thread presumes the study proves we're all racists. That is a baseless presumption as well. We're all connecting dots from limited information. Unless you're omniscient. Concluding anything from this study requires presumption.

quote:

You seem very emotional.


You're presumption is off.

quote:

So do most people. It's not an accomplishment


I am not seeking your approval.
This post was edited on 1/19/16 at 9:29 pm
Posted by dbbuilder79
Overton NV
Member since Dec 2010
4149 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 9:36 pm to
I'm curious if a black man was to give the questions if the results would be the same
Posted by lsuwontonwrap
Member since Aug 2012
34147 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 9:39 pm to
I knew a black girl in college who only dated white guys because her dad didn't want her to have dark skinned kids (she was dark complexioned).
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56272 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 9:40 pm to
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The title of the thread presumes the study proves we're all racists
No, it's a joke. Those are for the purpose of human amusement, in case you were wondering.
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You seem very emotional.



You're presumption is off.
Yep. You're butthurt and emotional.
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I am not seeking your approval.
So mad.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge LA
Member since Sep 2006
36113 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 9:45 pm to
quote:

I'm curious if a black man was to give the questions if the results would

Yes. Already done. Same without kids knowing the race of the interviewer too.
Posted by tennvol
Member since Nov 2014
2495 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 9:46 pm to
There is a reason every non-white wants to have the lightest skin possible.

If you don't believe it, ask them.
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
12977 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 9:55 pm to
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No, it's a joke. Those are for the purpose of human amusement, in case you were wondering.


I caught the joke. My point is that any conclusion from the study is hypothesis and at the end of the day, a presumption. I presume and I am emotional. I also will go home and eat a meal, frick my wife, and forget about this thread and it's stupid purpose.

It has been entertaining though.
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