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re: Dog with the twisted stomach, aka the "smurf hat"

Posted on 5/11/15 at 11:43 am to
Posted by atchafalaya
Bayou Chene, Louisiana
Member since Dec 2006
1530 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 11:43 am to
I hate to hear this. It does not bode well for our situation.

Sorry u lost ur dog man.

Vet hasn't talked to us yet about probability of recurrence. It worries me that yall got the staple and it didn't help.

Eta: as you and guys above point out big dogs and dogs with certain chest cavity proportions seem more susceptible to this. What's weird is this isn't a big dog: it's a 50 lb terrier , Shepard sort of mutt mix. Crazy stuff.

Sorry again.
This post was edited on 5/11/15 at 11:47 am
Posted by AubieALUMdvm
Member since Oct 2011
11713 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 11:45 am to
You're welcome. I'm glad it's going well and I hope he has full recovery. I know its tough to give up that kind of dough but you did right by your dog.

If he had to take the spleen out then things were definitely getting serious. There are little vessels that run from the tip of the spleen to the stomach. When the stomach twists, those twist and cut off blood supply. In those cases if you wait even longer part of the stomach wall dies too and you have to cut some of it out - definitely not an easy thing to do and sometimes not fixable at all.
Posted by Artie Rome
Hwy 1
Member since Jul 2014
8757 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 11:50 am to
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I just lost one mastiff with this and the second one had it a few months later.


I was warned about this when I got my mastiff almost 20 years ago. Luckily it was never an issue for him. Did your dogs eat voraciously when you fed them? Mine was a casual eater. There was usually food in his bowl unless I put some leftovers in it. And sorry to hear about them. I've had to put down a few dogs, but being in there with a 180 lb animal while they drift off was fricking brutal.
Posted by atchafalaya
Bayou Chene, Louisiana
Member since Dec 2006
1530 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 11:53 am to
Thanks for great data man.

Yeah the cost is a lot but honestly I thought it was going to be a lot more. I think we will land at about 3300.00.

Here is what's crazy about spleen damage: dog was perfect and active with no issues at 10pm.

At 11pm, suddenly, it was moaning, gruntining, pacing, vomiting, in obvious pain.

We only let this go on until about midnight (for an hour) and saw that something was up and hauled her in.

The real kicker: I knew nothing about this condition! And the ONLY reason we brought her in is because my daughter brought home a milkweed plant for butterflies and I was convinced she ate that plant.

So it's kinda wild that if it wasn't for the milkweed in house, I probably would have just thought dog was constipated. Would have been a bad mistake!
This post was edited on 5/11/15 at 11:55 am
Posted by atchafalaya
Bayou Chene, Louisiana
Member since Dec 2006
1530 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 11:56 am to
Yes dog inhales food. So probably will feed smaller amount twice a day in that slow eat bowl that the guys posted above or maybe do the baking pan. I like the bowl tho.
Posted by Captain Fantasy
Member since Mar 2013
1595 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 11:58 am to
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At 11pm, suddenly, it was moaning, gruntining, pacing, vomiting, in obvious pain.
Poor girl. Thanks for posting this. Having a bigger dog myself, I was nervous that she could get bloat and I'd have no idea.
Posted by acarlisle53
San Antonio
Member since May 2008
5 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 12:20 pm to
The female was a bull mastiff and about 155 pounds, but she got sick when we had her at a dog kennel while on vacation so did not see the full process, The male was an english mastiff about 175 pounds, and the first time he was sick with bloat, we loaded him up immediately and headed to the emergency vet. They did the surgery immediately, and he was supposed to be isolated and resting for about three weeks once we got him home.

However we also have a two year old german shepherd who is so active, it was hard to keep him away from the playing shepherd. He did well for about 5-6 months and then had bloat again. We caught it in time and got him to the vet and they were able to treat him with meds and other procedures and he was able to recover.

We have a pool in the back yard and the dogs were out playing in the late evening. They had been out for only about an hour or so and my youngest daughter was coming off the sport court and saw that Rosco (the mastiff) was acting funny. We got him out of the pool and could see immediately that he was already in distress from bloat.

We could not get him in the truck and called the emergency vet who told us several things to try. None proved helpful, and within another hour or so he was gone. Really a very sad thing to watch him go through. But he was nine years old, and was pretty well at his age maximum for the breed.

Thanks for your thoughts, he was a great animal, amazing protector for my children and extremely loyal dog. But good Lord, could he fart and fill up a house with the worst smells you could imagine. Guess I will miss even those things!
Posted by Artie Rome
Hwy 1
Member since Jul 2014
8757 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 12:34 pm to
My English mastiff made it to 12 in pretty good health. I was young and foolish when I got him but he was awesome. I do not miss hearing him drinking water then shaking his head. You could hear the drool hitting the walls and ceiling. He was about the size of yours but thought he was a lap dog.
Posted by acarlisle53
San Antonio
Member since May 2008
5 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 12:45 pm to
I know exactly what you mean. Constantly cleaning slobber off the walls. Good times.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 12:54 pm to
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Well in the wild they probably didn't constantly eat big meals like they do domestically.


in the wild they die and no one knows or gives a shite. Cant really compare domesticated dogs/cats/horses to "wild" ones. We all know about our domesticated pets, who the hell knows the stats/details on the deaths of the "wild" ones?
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