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re: Does tamiflu work as a preventative?

Posted on 12/24/14 at 7:10 pm to
Posted by LEASTBAY
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 12/24/14 at 7:10 pm to
didnt read the thread but you can take it as preventive, some insurances wont cover it though unless you have an influenza diagnosis, the dosages are different though
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 12/24/14 at 7:10 pm to
Our kids' pediatricians have always offered tamiflu scripts for our other kids when any of them got the flu.
Posted by Tygerfan
Member since Jan 2004
33745 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 7:34 pm to
At the ER now with the flu. This sucks severely and I as well got the flu shot this year.
Haven't had the flu since I was a kid and the first year that I have ever gotten the shot, I get the flu.

Posted by Macintosh504
Leveraging Salaries University
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 12/24/14 at 7:36 pm to
Don't give any medicine that is man made. Use natural ingredients. You'll only hurt them in the long run
Posted by TMDawg
Member since Nov 2012
5374 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 7:37 pm to
Posted by DaBeerz
Member since Sep 2004
16929 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 8:03 pm to
No, not proven per gold standard of medical evidence.

Cochrane
This post was edited on 12/24/14 at 8:08 pm
Posted by CorkSoaker
Member since Oct 2008
9784 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 8:20 pm to
Thanks for the info. Pediatrician hasn't called back yet. Dumbass at er gave 1 year old (30lb) and 4 year old 4(40 lb) 6 mg/ml suspension. Twice a day for 5 days
Posted by Camp Randall
The Shadow of the Valley of Death
Member since Nov 2005
15591 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 8:36 pm to
Last Friday at 8 was my first dosage. Took last tamiflu last tues. It was like a paranoid pot high without the high.

Definately unusual behavior.
Posted by TMDawg
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 12/24/14 at 8:41 pm to
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This post was edited on 12/24/14 at 8:44 pm
Posted by TMDawg
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 12/24/14 at 8:42 pm to
Hope the little ones get better quick

That's no fun around the holidays, or any time for that matter.
Posted by Volt
Ascension Island, S Atlantic Ocean
Member since Nov 2009
2960 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 8:46 pm to
As the Cochrane review says, no proof that it works as a preventative.

And, yes, can have strange side effects, esp in the teen to 20's range.

Of course I'm an ER NP and don't know much, or read much, or hear much, or see much every shift in the ER as some think
Posted by Nynna11
Member since Jul 2012
474 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 8:54 pm to
quote:

Thanks for the info. Pediatrician hasn't called back yet. Dumbass at er gave 1 year old (30lb) and 4 year old 4(40 lb) 6 mg/ml suspension. Twice a day for 5 days

Just went through this in our family - child with flu was prescribed 2 x day for 5 days and sibling 1 x day for 10 days. Prescribed by pediatrician who also instructed that if sibling started to run fever to convert him to 2 x day.
Posted by piratedude
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 12/24/14 at 9:05 pm to
Doctor friend told me last night of some recent research that found tamiflu was not effective
Posted by TMDawg
Member since Nov 2012
5374 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 9:13 pm to
When you look into the article, the RD for households with tamiflu is 13% with a NNTB of 7. That's better numbers than with aspirin for coronary event prevention yet we do that routinely (in the right age group, etc).

The biggest disappointment with tamiflu has been that it really doesn't do anything with regard to outcomes of those with the flu such as ICU admissions etc and the decreased symptom length is really meh at best and the pneumonia studies were sketchy as hell but I know you already know that.
This post was edited on 12/24/14 at 9:14 pm
Posted by Walt OReilly
Poplarville, MS
Member since Oct 2005
124422 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 9:15 pm to
I hope you don't come down with the flu
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
14964 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 9:43 pm to
It's an expensive preventative measure. I haven't seen great evidence on its efficacy, but I haven't read too much into it, admittedly. Anecdotally, more of the docs I have worked with don't offer it to the family members as preventative if they're not high risk (elderly, <2, immunocompromised).
Posted by CorkSoaker
Member since Oct 2008
9784 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 9:47 pm to
It was 100% covered for all of us on my husbands insurance. (Not Obama care haha)
Posted by CorkSoaker
Member since Oct 2008
9784 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 9:47 pm to
It was 100% covered for all of us on my husbands insurance. (Not Obama care haha)
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
14964 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 9:48 pm to
quote:

Don't give any medicine that is man made. Use natural ingredients. You'll only hurt them in the long run


Arsenic is natural. Penicillin and normal saline are not. Two of those three save lives frequently. And it's not the natural product.




Paid for by Big Pharma who conspired with anyone with a medical education to vaccinate and prescribe antibiotics to kids to the point that doctors even vaccinate and medicate their own kids. The stipends for compliance are that fricking good
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
14964 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 9:49 pm to
Ah. In that case, it is probably best thought to fall in the "could help, probably won't hurt" category at this time. I'd probably give/take it if I wasn't paying for it. I also probably wouldn't pay for it.
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