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re: Do any parents out there wish they didn't have kids?
Posted on 1/4/17 at 9:38 am to OysterPoBoy
Posted on 1/4/17 at 9:38 am to OysterPoBoy
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Do you think only people without kids do that?
I don't know many young couples with kids who travel the world. It's usually not practical for a multitude of reasons.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 9:39 am to Nado Jenkins83
Bruh, with how much childcare costs I could have two brand new 21'' Xpress' with Yamaha 115 four strokes on them
Still rather have my boy though.. our boat(s) will come
Still rather have my boy though.. our boat(s) will come
Posted on 1/4/17 at 9:41 am to Pecker
There is absolutely no reason to get married if you don't want kids. And if the two of you both feel that way, you probably don't have much to offer kids anyway. Kids need to thrive, not have lazy, un-nurturing,materialistic, self-absorbed parents. The world already has enough "adults" suffering from failure-to-launch syndrome.. Leave the heavy lifting of marriage and parenthood to those of us who can handle it and get on with being an eternal adolescent.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 9:41 am to Pecker
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Not even remotely true. There are kids everywhere that had good parents and the kids were born with psychological disorders.
Ok so your saying something different than I am saying. I took "shitbag" as a kid who is a little brat and throws temper tantrums. You're saying "what if my kid has a mental disorder that makes him/her an inconvenience to me?"
those are two totally different things and yes it is a possibility that your kid could be born with a mental disorder. You would still love it no matter what.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 9:41 am to FishinTygah84
Like others mentioned, I wish for days of silence on occasion. However, I want to applaud you for analyzing the situation like you and your fiancé have. Some people just have children because they feel the pressure from society and/or their parents, and don't think about the emotional, time, and financial commitments.
For me personally, I can't imagine life without my daughter, but I also think I got lucky. She extremely self-motivated to make straight A's in school, is athletic, a musician, and has a wonderful and funny personality which makes her popular with her peers. She also a person that marches to the beat of her own drum (i.e. not easily influenced), but I digress...
In the end, each child is approximately a $400k commitment by the end of college, so naturally, that has to be part of the equation. However, the intangible benefits and life experiences of raising a child can be more fun, adventurous, and fulfilling than any amount of vacationing or "freedom."
For me personally, I can't imagine life without my daughter, but I also think I got lucky. She extremely self-motivated to make straight A's in school, is athletic, a musician, and has a wonderful and funny personality which makes her popular with her peers. She also a person that marches to the beat of her own drum (i.e. not easily influenced), but I digress...
In the end, each child is approximately a $400k commitment by the end of college, so naturally, that has to be part of the equation. However, the intangible benefits and life experiences of raising a child can be more fun, adventurous, and fulfilling than any amount of vacationing or "freedom."
Posted on 1/4/17 at 9:42 am to Pecker
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I don't know many young couples with kids who travel the world. It's usually not practical for a multitude of reasons.
well, from this thread, it would seem to be more practical for you, since you claim that you and your fiance have nice paying jobs and a good support system with family
and this isn't me trying to talk you into having kids, just that your excuses are kinda weak
if you don't want kids, by all means, don't have kids
Posted on 1/4/17 at 9:44 am to Lsupimp
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There is absolutely no reason to get married if you don't want kids. And if the two of you both feel that way, you probably don't have much to offer kids anyway. Kids need to thrive, not have lazy, un-nurturing,materialistic, self-absorbed parents. The world already has enough "adults" suffering from failure-to-launch syndrome.. Leave the heavy lifting of marriage and parenthood to those of us who can handle it and get on with being an eternal adolescent.
This doesn't seem like a very mature response. It seems to lack in understanding, which one would think is a good trait to possess as a parent.
You think marriage is only necessary for the sake of children? You didn't marry your wife because you loved her any wanted to be with her for the rest of your lives, only because you thought she could one day be the mother of your kids? Did you say that in your vows?
This post was edited on 1/4/17 at 9:45 am
Posted on 1/4/17 at 9:44 am to Pecker
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I love my child dearly, but I hate that I continuously have to sacrifice everything that I used to love about life now that I have a kid.
I love working (I'm freelance, so flexible hours) but with a kid I simply have 20-40 fewer hours in a week, and that is with a wife and expensive daycare. It's like I have to fight to get a day's worth of work done.
I used to love spending time with my wife, doing something fun just the two of us. With a kid that happens almost never, and when it does you have to plan it and get a babysitter and accept that it now costs $10 an hour just to see my wife alone. And even then half the time you're probably too frayed and tired to enjoy it.
I used to love having a healthy and active sex life. I was convinced that we would never be those people who couldn't find time or energy for sex. Now we're down to maybe twice a month if we're lucky, and half the time when we do do it it's disappointing. Our sex life went from a constant 9 or 10, to a 2 or a 3.
I also used to love just talking to my wife or being able to hear my own thoughts. With a kid in the house those moments get increasingly rare. It's like we're not allowed to talk to each other. You have no idea how stressful it is when every thought you have and everything you say gets interrupted.
I used to love having disposable income. We're still far from poor, but the extra $2k in bills each month does take away a lot of flexibility. Anyone thinking of having kids, try putting away $2k a month for a year just to see how it feels.
I like getting up early, but sometimes after a long week or night I would sleep in an hour or two. Preferably snuggling the wife, maybe some morning sex, or even just reading my phone... With a kid, fuggedaboutit. You're getting up at 6AM seven days a week, no matter how you feel. It's every day, it does not end for years. And our kid is a good sleeper. Plenty of parents are up twice a night for years.
Traveling and holidays used to be fun. With a kid it's mostly a continuous struggle. There is no daycare so one or both of you is constantly doing the kid. You don't get to see your partner alone or just chill together. Oh and everything is 50% more expensive. The first holiday we booked after we had our son was to Sri Lanka. We were supposed to be there for a little over two weeks but with the baby it was such a shite sandwich that four days in we got online and spent $600 extra to change our tickets and fly home. What should have been a wonderful two week holiday became a very expensive four days of hell.
And all of that is just me and my selfish needs. I haven't even started about the stress of trying to be a good parent. That's a whole other level of difficulty in your life.
I could go on and on and on. The worst part about for me is that it doesn't end. This is hard to convey to people who don't have kids. A kid is awake for 14 hours a day, so even with daycare which costs a fortune, they take up 8 hours of your day every day when they don't take the full 14. It's fricking relentless.
Oh and yes it does get a little better when they get older, but not much. Mine is 4.5 now and it's still full on. We always thought he should have a sibling but we just can't hack it so we're just going to stick to one and feel guilty about it.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 9:44 am to Pecker
Most of my really good friends don't have kids. Family wise, my little brother doesn't have any and isn't planning on it. I see it first hand and understand their decisions. In complete contrast, I have 3 kids now and wish we could have more. They can't even begin to be on my wavelength on it so I don't try to discuss it with them, but it's the greatest single thing in my life. If you can't see yourself in a life with kids, maybe you should just not have them and really, there's nothing wrong with that. But there's simply no way to bottle or describe the feeling to explain what it's like with them. I could never imagine a life where I couldn't have them now. I'd be empty.
tl;dr: kids are great...
tl;dr: kids are great...
Posted on 1/4/17 at 9:45 am to Pecker
After reading your post...do any potential kids a favor, and don't procreate. You sound like a complete prick honestly.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 9:47 am to Pecker
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Not even remotely true. There are kids everywhere that had good parents and the kids were born with psychological disorders
so you are saying sick kids are shitty?
Posted on 1/4/17 at 9:47 am to Pecker
How old are you?
Me and the wife married when i was 23. We didnt want kids, we enjoyed vacations 5-6 times a year. Going and comming as we please. Being spontanious on a friday evening after work and saying hey lets run to the beach for the weekend. Buying a new truck every year, buying atvs, and boats, and enjoying nice things for ourself.
but about a year ago (i was 32) we both just got tired of the same ole same life and needed something more. We both saw all our friends with their kids and enjoying doing things with them. And we decided we needed/wanted kids in our life.
Point is.... your thought process may change
Me and the wife married when i was 23. We didnt want kids, we enjoyed vacations 5-6 times a year. Going and comming as we please. Being spontanious on a friday evening after work and saying hey lets run to the beach for the weekend. Buying a new truck every year, buying atvs, and boats, and enjoying nice things for ourself.
but about a year ago (i was 32) we both just got tired of the same ole same life and needed something more. We both saw all our friends with their kids and enjoying doing things with them. And we decided we needed/wanted kids in our life.
Point is.... your thought process may change
Posted on 1/4/17 at 9:48 am to Pecker
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I don't know many young couples with kids who travel the world. It's usually not practical for a multitude of reasons.
It's really simple. Go get married. Get stable, move up the company ladder, etc etc, travel the world or do whatever the frick yall want for 5-6yrs (If you cant get most of what you want do childless, within reason, in 5yrs then you probably dont have the money to have kids anyways.)
After 5yrs then start thinking about having kids. If yall dont want them by then or just wait or dont have them at all. All I know I wouldnt have stood a chance with my kids mom if it was just her and I by ourselves. Being able to take my son out fishing or shooting or bringing my daughter golfing and to LSU games have made life better for me.
This post was edited on 1/4/17 at 9:49 am
Posted on 1/4/17 at 9:48 am to Pecker
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You think marriage is only necessary for the sake of children?
unless your religious, yes IMO
Me and my wife would not have got married if we didn't want children
Posted on 1/4/17 at 9:48 am to Passing Wind
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You sound like a complete prick honestly.
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Pecker
Sort of checks out.
This post was edited on 1/4/17 at 9:49 am
Posted on 1/4/17 at 9:48 am to JJ27
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There's two of them...
That's only half as stupid which is still pretty stupid. If my parents told me that they sunk five grand when I was kid to teach me to yell and jump, I'd probably punch them in the throat.
Take that time and money and teach them a musical instrument or martial art or some kind of actual skill.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 9:49 am to Salmon
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well, from this thread, it would seem to be more practical for you, since you claim that you and your fiance have nice paying jobs and a good support system with family
and this isn't me trying to talk you into having kids, just that your excuses are kinda weak
if you don't want kids, by all means, don't have kids
I honestly don't think I'd want to haul young kids around all over the world. It sounds miserable. I've never sat on an 18 hr flight with my own kids, but I've sat on an 18 hr flight with other people's kids. And everyone on the plane wanted to strangle the life out of those kids.
And it seems shitty to leave your young kids for extended periods of time because you want to enjoy your separate life without them.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 9:49 am to Salmon
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unless your religious, yes IMO
Me and my wife would not have got married if we didn't want children
We are both Bible-believing Christians.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 9:50 am to Pecker
If your kid were to become a shithead it would be a direct reflection of you and your significant other being a shithead parent. You ever think about that, Pecker?
Posted on 1/4/17 at 9:50 am to Passing Wind
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After reading your post...do any potential kids a favor, and don't procreate. You sound like a complete prick honestly.
Well that's rude. I wonder if your kids would be proud of that comment.
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