re: Dino Rizzo still over HPC?

And here we go....

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I just find it sad and pathetic to keep going on about something that has ZERO affect on your life and to constantly try to bring someone down over mistakes he made.

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The OP was not about this. And it has been quite some time since we've had a HPC thread so your take on the term "Constantly" has no real merit here.

I was genuinely wondering if the way the world is today is the reason his ministry has not taken the hit Swaggarts did back in the day.

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“To those I have disappointed, I want to say forgive me. I’m sorry if I’ve ever disappointed you as pastor.”

“Two months ago,” Rizzo said, “I let my spirit, soul and body get depleted and did not make good choices as a dad, as a husband, as a leader.” He said they, as a couple with three children, are now on a road of “healing and hope.”

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this is utter nonsense. what is he, Superman exposed to some kryptonite tail? And he needs to just get replenished by some magical Jesus Juice so he doesn't make boo-boo no more? And is that an apology? My grandmother would've switched my arse if I tried to pass that off as an apology. horseshite. This man's "theology" --as encapsulated in those two statements--is so fundamentally flawed that no one should ever take him seriously, much less give him authority over other people. Grown flippin adults.

and re: (post by monsterballads)

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then he changed the plan when he was up there. very weird. dude did NOT want to admit any sort of guilt. he whitewashed his wrong doing. it was pretty ridiculous.

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it's a travesty, and i have no problem saying that anyone who stays involved in a church led in any way by that man needs to do some serious soul searching about what it means to be a Christian and a member of a church.

People who take people's money and claim spiritual and even earthly authority over them should be judged by a standard befitting those responsibilities, and they should be defrocked when they utterly fail as a leader, which he has.

This isn't about grace or forgiveness or pointing fingers or casting stones--it's about church leadership and authority.

And if the church is tainted by Dino (which it appears to be), then the whole church should dissolve and be disregarded--yes, despite any "good" they claim to do in the name of Jesus. Start over and do it with right leadership.

that's just the thing though. it's all one big network and all of the pastors are connected.

dino helped a lot of people financially over the years with people's money and the safety net came out when he got busted.

From what i understand, all ties are cut with the main non profit. not 100% sure on the smaller non-profits the church also had.

Also, after the Dino departure, the church organizational hierarchy was drastically changed. with three tiers of oversight, with no one having the power that Dino had. And people not on staff with the church participating in on of the oversight tiers

An based on recent numbers the church is growing, and close to the pre-Dino Scandal hit in membership it took.

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I don't even live in BR and had no idea this place existed until the OT started posting about it. I just find it sad and pathetic to keep going on about something that has ZERO affect on your life and to constantly try to bring someone down over mistakes he made. Everyone fricks up in life. No one is infallible. People need to worry about themselves first and quit pointing fingers. That isn't limited to just this thread FWIW.

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Well said.

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its how his money was made, and that makes his behavior interesting to many people. How can you not grasp that?

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So he's a hypocrite?

I have news for you....we all are to some degree.

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Well said.

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well no.