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re: Credit Card Chip system. Or not?

Posted on 10/25/16 at 7:20 am to
Posted by BruslyTiger
Waiting on 420...
Member since Oct 2003
4619 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 7:20 am to
quote:

New security flaw in credit card chip system revealed


Other flaws were identified at the Balckhat conference this year. They are not as secure as they try and make you believe because, Hackers gonna hack.
Posted by Tigerdad2001
Watson
Member since Sep 2013
922 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 7:26 am to
They have nothing to do with security (Just affects who is liable in the case of fraud).
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
29433 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 8:11 am to
Feel free to correct my ignorance, but wouldn't using Apple Pay or Android Pay be the most secure transaction you could get? NFC followed by a biometric security measure?

If that's correct, it's kinda dumbfounded that retailers aren't pushing this.
Posted by oreeg
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
5283 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 8:48 am to
Where do you live? About 90% of the retailers I frequent use the chip.

Move out of the sticks, Jethro.
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 8:58 am to
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So about a year ago, everyone had to change credit cards and debit cards to get the new cards with the "Chip Technology" on them. A lot of talk and BS

A year later and I rarely purchase something at a place that actually uses or has the Chip reader? WTF? I thought this was suppose to be some kind of major security break through

I would say 10% of the places I use my card in person, uses a chip reader. I just swipe and move on



The law is that if fraud occurs and the business is not using the chip reader then they are responsible and not the card issuer. I assume most businesses are taking the gamble until it doesn't make financial sense anymore.
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 8:59 am to
quote:

If that's correct, it's kinda dumbfounded that retailers aren't pushing this.


because they want their cut
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18651 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 2:38 pm to
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Not 100 percent sure, but if fraud happens with your card in such a situation, the merchant may or may not honor any fraud coverage like the bank would.



I don't think you understand what you're saying. If someone steals my credit card number and clones it to a fake card and goes to [Retailer] and buys a TV using a swipe, of course I'll be covered for the fraud--the credit card company would reverse the charges. They're not gonna say "Sorry, the thief did it with a swipe--Go call [Retailer]." When they reverse the charges under normal circumstances, the credit card company eats the fraudulent charge. Since the liability shift, I assume they charge [Retailer] for the fraudulent charge reversal.
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18651 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 2:40 pm to
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Feel free to correct my ignorance, but wouldn't using Apple Pay or Android Pay be the most secure transaction you could get? NFC followed by a biometric security measure?

If that's correct, it's kinda dumbfounded that retailers aren't pushing this.


They aren't pushing it because 1) It costs money to implement 2) They still have to take older credit card types, which is where the fraud would occur.

In addition, many retailers were banding together to push their own payment apps over Apple Pay/Android Pay so that they could do things through their own app without having to pay a % to another company. CurrentC is an example of that. But CurrentC went under, so now certain retailers that were in the CurrentC alliance like Best Buy are taking Apple Pay.
Posted by KingBarkus
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2009
8348 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 2:52 pm to
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Very few places here don't have the chip reader. Which sucks because the chip is much slower than swiping.


I understand the software is being redesigned to complete the transaction in under 3 seconds. I don't have an ECD or when it is targeted for production. Major customer complaint has been the wait times for chip processing.
Posted by eScott
Member since Oct 2008
11376 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 3:00 pm to
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The mark of the beast


What if I do it before the anti Christ makes me do it? I'd like to not have to carry a wallet
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