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couple of renovation questions

Posted on 6/20/17 at 1:41 pm
Posted by shotput3000
Member since Mar 2009
77 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 1:41 pm
1. When getting bids from subcontractors, is it commonplace to negotiate a lower price once a bid is given or is their bid their bid and you take the one you want? If you did get them agree to lower price would you worry about someone half-assing it because you aren't paying as much? Or is it more of a deal where some back and forth is expected and the first offer isn't the last one?

2. Before putting up sheetrock, we have insulation to put in to walls some but mostly ceiling. Is this usually done by one of other subs - sheetrock, general labor, etc or just specific insulation companies? Any advice or recs that you could give would be appreciated in Baton Rouge area.
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
66982 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 1:45 pm to
quote:

When getting bids from subcontractors, is it commonplace to negotiate a lower price once a bid is given or is their bid their bid and you take the one you want?


I always negotiate everything. All the time.

quote:

If you did get them agree to lower price would you worry about someone half-assing it because you aren't paying as much?

If you're worried about a contractor doing this, hire a different contractor.

This post was edited on 6/20/17 at 1:47 pm
Posted by fishfighter
RIP
Member since Apr 2008
40026 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 1:50 pm to
A bid is a bid, no changing that once you sign a contract. Make sure they are insured along with workmen comp.

Installing of insulation. If you have that in your contract, then it should be done. Or, you can contract that out yourself. Get bids on that.
Posted by shotput3000
Member since Mar 2009
77 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 1:57 pm to
Thanks for responses. Didn't mean adjusting once there is a contract - and not really talking about dealing with a contractor. Just if I get three guys to give me a bid on sheetrock - do people usually come back with a counter offer or are those gonna be their prices?

What type of people for insulation?

Thanks
Posted by BIGFOOD
Member since Jun 2011
12505 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 2:06 pm to
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What type of people for insulation?



I usually just call a insulation sub to do insulation. If you're having trouble finding bids for it, just call a few insulation companies as they do the install as well. But, you could find general multi trade laborers to install as well if you supply the materials yourself. Just be sure you are aware of R values and your local codes
Posted by LZ83
La
Member since Sep 2016
17406 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 2:07 pm to
If it's just plain roll out insulation, do it yourself. It's super easy.
Posted by dshort_bruh
Verbena
Member since Sep 2016
507 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 2:08 pm to
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What type of people for insulation?



I would imagine if you told them to add it in their bid they would do it.
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15120 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 2:11 pm to
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If you did get them agree to lower price would you worry about someone half-assing it because you aren't paying as much?


Good contractors are busy. If he quotes x amount per sq ft to do the drywall and you start low balling him. He may decide he doesn't want to work for you and move on to the next job.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43155 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 2:12 pm to
Negotiating a bit is fine. If they appear to be half-assing it then tell them they arent getting paid until it's done right.

Never pay upfront, it's your only leverage.
Posted by TU Rob
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2008
12743 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 2:14 pm to
You could do the insulation yourself. I did mine when renovating. Buy it by the roll and get a staple gun for in the wall. Just staple to each stud on the sides.
Posted by BIGFOOD
Member since Jun 2011
12505 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 2:15 pm to
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I would imagine if you told them to add it in their bid they would do it.



It sounds like, to me, that he is acting as his own general contractor and is getting bids from each trade
Posted by blueboxer1119
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
8009 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 2:36 pm to
You can absolutely negotiate. I simply share with them that I've received lower bids already. The ones that will negotiate will then try. Some will try and sell you about why they're worth more. Just tell them you'd like to use them, but can't justify paying more.

I would never worry about them half assing because you'd be the boss. You determine if they get paid. They do a garbage job, they don't get paid until it's fixed. Never pay anything upfront. Ever.

Usually the sheetrock guys will put in insulation. Just tell them to do it like you already expect it. They'll do it.
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