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re: Considering swimming laps to get in better shape..input needed

Posted on 7/8/14 at 8:28 am to
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 7/8/14 at 8:28 am to
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Always thought the bouy was the opposite of a kick board, allowing you to work on stroke


They're not opposite, but they are totally different. A pull buoy puts your hips and body in the proper position so you can concentrate on your catch, rotation and glide. As your pace increases and you fatigue those are the three things you lose thus resulting in greater fatige and slower times.

A kickboard does allow you to get into kick sets, but I agree with the newer approach to avoid a kickboard for almost all kick-sets (not all, but almost all). A kickboard (unlike a pull buoy) puts the body in a terrible position. It raises your head and shoulders and sinks the hips. If you do use a kickboard, putting your palms on the top end is probably the worst way to use it because it raises the head even more. The best way to hold one would be from the bottom, with arms fully extended and head in the water.

If you plan to do say 5x150 kick sets, a good option would be 50 with a kick board (25 hard 25 easy), 50 on the side (25 left side and 25 right side), then 50 on the back (25 hard and 25 easy). This way you are working out more than just the quads and fully engaging all the muscles in the legs that can be used for kicking.

A workout I love is 5 x 150 kick, 50 ez swim, 100 endurance pace swim with a rest interval of 1:00.
Posted by JAXTiger16
TBD
Member since Apr 2013
2217 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 8:29 am to
I swim a mile every day. It's a great exercise, drink a lot of water bc you will swear a lot and not even know it.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
53751 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 8:43 am to
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drink a lot of water bc you will swear a lot and not even know it.



Is hydration a secret cure for Tourettes?


(I agree though with your point)





Today's 30:00 main set was 10:00 up tempo swimming, then 10:00 of 100s ON the pace I swam the first 10:00 at, then 10:00 of 50s ON the pace I swam the first 10:00 at.

So:

650 yards at a 1:29 pace
2:00 rest
10:00 of 100s leaving every 1:30
3:00 rest (including an EZ 50 backstroke)
10:00 of 50s leaving every :45





Posted by forksup
Member since Dec 2013
8817 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 9:27 am to
I'm about to swimming before class. I'm time crunched (40 min), but here's what I'll be doing. (Triathlete stuff)

500 Warmup
6x50 45s
200 Easy
4x75 (25 race pace, 25 sprint, 25 easy)
200 Cool down
=1500m

OP, what really matters is that you try and do it most nearly every day in the beginning whether it be 500 or 1000 or 3000. That and technique.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
53751 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 9:30 am to
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I'm time crunched (40 min)


If I am in a bind like that, I usually opt for a 5 min WU and 30:00 MS and a 5 min CD.

30 minutes of 100s on something you could swim for 40 minutes at a hard effort.

100s would be faster than that but offer 3-10 seconds rest. They start out easy, but really start to challenge you as the set progresses.
Posted by RingLeader
Slidell, LA
Member since Jan 2007
1047 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 11:55 am to
Elmwood and UNO both used to have masters groups. Not sure if either do anymore. Masters swimming in Louisiana/Mississippi has dried up almost to nothing. Most of the masters groups that do exist are made up of triathletes. So there are all sorts of skill levels in those groups.

I swim alone because I can't get up at 4:30-5:00am, swim and hour or so, and then stay awake for a day of work. Swimming alone gets boring fast, but its all I can do to keep under 200 lbs.
Posted by RingLeader
Slidell, LA
Member since Jan 2007
1047 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 12:00 pm to
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Just a heads up about swimming. If you are looking to improve fitness levels, do it. If you are looking to lose weight, don't bother.


You'll burn the hell out of calories in the pool. Trick is to not put them all back. I lost 38 lbs last year between Feb 1 and May 1 while training for SCY Masters Nationals. 4000-4500 yds (1 hour in pool) 4 days a week. Drylands for an hour on non-swimming days. Watched what I ate. Weight melted off.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 12:14 pm to
I've been swimming laps for a little over a year. The main benefit for me is my back. The combination of the cool water and the stretching really help there.

Your appetite will go up after you swim. I read that swimming drops your core temp, and that you get a surge in appetite as a result.

I swim for thirty minutes about twice a week. Because I'm swim slowly, that is only above a half mile at a time.

I don't use any floats or gizmos.

When I first started out, I had shoulder pain. I improved my form, and it has never recurred.

Good luck.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 12:32 pm to
I substitute swimming for running in the summer. Especially for an early morning workout. I work outside so I'm not too concerned with showing up dirty but I don't like to feel nasty like I do after a run. I can swim laps and skip the shower. Saves a lot of time.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
53751 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 1:11 pm to
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Elmwood and UNO both used to have masters groups. Not sure if either do anymore.


Chris Lutz holds a masters class at UNO and I know there are others as well.

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