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re: CNN has been airing a new MIchael Brown video

Posted on 9/11/14 at 10:25 am to
Posted by UL-SabanRival
Member since May 2013
4651 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 10:25 am to
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People believe what they want to believe. Michael brown deserved to die because he "charged him", or that's what they believe

I haven't seen anyone post that he deserved to die. The "witnesses" said he was shot while running away, which has been proven to be physically impossible.

"Witnesses" also said Brown was a "gentle giant." Yeah, he sure looked gentle while robbing the convenience store. And just like Trayvon, the media rolled out the dated photos and the little pimp hat wearing lawyers and other hustlers descended on the scene, stores were looted and vandalized, people were beaten up, etc etc etc, and it's all about the evil white man trying to keep the black man (and no other race, apparently) down.

Black folks need to get some better heroes and stop blindly believing everything the TV tells them.
Posted by TheDeathValley
New Orleans, LA
Member since Sep 2010
17155 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 10:38 am to
We will never know.
Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 10:48 am to
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t was supposedly two white construction workers saying his hands were up and he was shot in the back


Jesus Christ! They said he was shot at while he was running away. The female witness(who doesn't live in Ferguson & was an Employer picking up an employee) said Brown jerked as if he had been shot in the back.

She means he 'flinched' as bullets were coming at him & stopped & turned around with his hands in the air.

Again she said he 'flinched as if he were shot when he was running away. No way for her to know nor did she say 100% he was actually hit.
Posted by trom83
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2013
4724 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 10:54 am to
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 11:01 am to
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Jesus Christ! They said he was shot at while he was running away. The female witness(who doesn't live in Ferguson & was an Employer picking up an employee) said Brown jerked as if he had been shot in the back.

She means he 'flinched' as bullets were coming at him & stopped & turned around with his hands in the air.

Again she said he 'flinched as if he were shot when he was running away. No way for her to know nor did she say 100% he was actually hit.

Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
17547 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 11:15 am to
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Witnesses" also said Brown was a "gentle giant." Yeah, he sure looked gentle while robbing the convenience store.


You're choosing to ignore facts about the case. The store owner never called the cops, and other video from store shows he did in fact pay for the "rello." Believe what you want.

I'm also not going to blame a victims for their death. At the end of the day, an unarmed young man was gunned down for reasons that did not warrant death? Taking 3 dollar items fom a store is worthy of death? If that's the case, all the kids I grew up that repeatedly store from college food courts, off campus convenient stores, and dining halls are eligible to get gun down as well, by your logic.

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stores were looted and vandalized, people were beaten up, etc etc etc, and it's all about the evil white man trying to keep the black man (and no other race, apparently) down.


Like that justifies Michael Browns killing?

Are you saying systematic/institutionalized racism doesn't exist?

You also need to stop believing everything you see on TV because I can clearly see that you choose which sources you choose to believe :/
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 11:22 am to
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So they got the cops to loan them a car and uniform to make the video?



Or they filmed it 150 yards away from a cop car that was there for another reason. Probably plenty of cars in that area since the shooting to allow it.
Posted by 91TIGER
Lafayette
Member since Aug 2006
17701 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 11:31 am to
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You're choosing to ignore facts about the case


Just like you're doing with the little facts you have. If he tried to disarm the officer and returned in an advance toward him he engaged in a SECOND deadly force threat. Did this happen, I don't know ? You seem to think you have all the "facts", when you don't have shite. Wait for the investigation to be completed before you rush to judgement.
Posted by ruzil
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2012
16897 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 11:38 am to
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The CCN reporter said the cop was shooting while Brown was trying to get away. Doesn't mean he hit him though.

Most likely the guy tried to get away after the first few shots from him attacking the cop but you won't hear the witnesses say that.


Bolded part seems to be overlooked by everyone.




If he was running away and being shot at, why did he not run for cover like his friend did behind a parked car?

Instead he turns and runs toward the cop?
Posted by UL-SabanRival
Member since May 2013
4651 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 11:38 am to
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The store owner never called the cops, and other video from store shows he did in fact pay for the "rello." Believe what you want.

Show me video of him paying for them, and then explain to me why the store owner tried to stop him from leaving and why he was physically intimidated when he did.
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Taking 3 dollar items fom a store is worthy of death?

Didn't say that, but it does seem to fly in the face of the gentle giant line.
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If that's the case, all the kids I grew up that repeatedly store from college food courts, off campus convenient stores, and dining halls are eligible to get gun down as well, by your logic.


And again, no one said he deserved to die for stealing, but I refuse to believe that he was a gentle soul who was shot for no reason.

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Like that justifies Michael Browns killing?

All of that happened after the shooting, dumbass, you know, during the peaceful civil rights protest.

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Are you saying systematic/institutionalized racism doesn't exist?

I sure am. Only one non white race complains about it. Everyone else uses American opportunity and free market capitalism to get ahead, or fail, whichever their ability and dedication warrant.

And FYI, I can't watch Fox News for more than 2 or 3 minutes before wanting to Elvis my tv. CNN, on the other hand, has straight up lied and told half truths in order to incite hysteria. They belong in prison.
This post was edited on 9/11/14 at 11:53 am
Posted by Geauxld Finger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
31707 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 11:40 am to
so after all this has gone down...these guys just NOW come forward. I stand on no side of the fence in this but that sounds awfully fishy imo.
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
17547 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 11:40 am to
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Just like you're doing with the little facts you have. If he tried to disarm the officer and returned in an advance toward him he engaged in a SECOND deadly force threat. Did this happen, I don't know ? You seem to think you have all the "facts", when you don't have shite. Wait for the investigation to be completed before you rush to judgement.


One word of mouth witness said he reached for the gun. Why do you trust one witness close to the cop? Why haven't you questioned whether or not that's actually a fact, or just the cop trying to save his arse? Of why the FPD released the angle of the surveillance video that would "incriminate" Michael brown, even though it was an unrelated incident?

Several people have a story that doesn't match up with that cops friend. Why do you trust her? Why is her word legitimate as opposed to the other ACTUAL eye witnesses.

seems to me like you want a certain narrative to play out.

Seems to me like it's more plausible to legitimize the statements of those that actually have the balls to put their face behind their testimonies.
Posted by ruzil
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2012
16897 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 11:41 am to
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Taking 3 dollar items fom a store is worthy of death? If that's the case, all the kids I grew up that repeatedly store from college food courts, off campus convenient stores, and dining halls are eligible to get gun down as well, by your logic.


Well, did your friends then attack and try to disarm a police officer?
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 11:42 am to
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sugar71


HANDS UP

DONT SHOOT

TASTE THE RAINBOW!
Posted by link
Member since Feb 2009
19867 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 11:46 am to
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Seems to me like it's more plausible to legitimize the statements of those that actually have the balls to put their face behind their testimonies.
defying the public's opinion that deadly force was justified IS having balls. it's very easy to put your face behind a camera and go along with popular opinion. nothing ballsy about that, sorry.
Posted by link
Member since Feb 2009
19867 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 11:48 am to
quote:

Taking 3 dollar items fom a store is worthy of death? If that's the case, all the kids I grew up that repeatedly store from college food courts, off campus convenient stores, and dining halls are eligible to get gun down as well, by your logic.
by your logic, your thieving pals should show their faces when they steal something instead of sneaking things in their pockets and running away. well if they had balls, they would.
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
21618 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 11:48 am to
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Is she implying that whites are more credible?



Not necessarily more credible than black people but certainly more credible than a lot of other races. Would you rather buy a car from a white guy or an italian? I think it's a no-brainer, the dago is gonna rip you off every time.
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
14728 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 12:19 pm to
These guys are more credible because they aren't from the area and don't appear to have any dog in the fight.

Can't wait for the ballistics and the official report of the officers side of the story.
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
17547 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 1:07 pm to
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Not necessarily more credible than black people but certainly more credible than a lot of other races. Would you rather buy a car from a white guy or an italian? I think it's a no-brainer, the dago is gonna rip you off every time.


Based on what? Sad that you live your life like that. Attitudes like that is why racism hasn't died
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
62935 posts
Posted on 9/11/14 at 1:09 pm to
You just responded seriously to the Stephen Colbert of the OT, Fwiw.
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