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re: Cinema attack in Germany - suspect killed
Posted on 6/23/16 at 11:22 am to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 6/23/16 at 11:22 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Americans have taken to anxiety and depression meds
Fix the problems temporarily until the body adjusts and becomes desensitized to the dosage instead of fixing the person. I believe meds play a part in the rehabilitation and care of people in need of mental help, but as a society it seems that is the only fix being used.
I liken it to a leaky roof. You start with a small bucket (dosage) to catch the leak, but then that's too small so you get a bigger one (dosage), and bigger and bigger until the damage caused by the underlying problem causes the roof to cave in ( self harm or harm others). We need to fix the roof and have the small bucket to catch the small leaks when needed.
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Posted on 6/23/16 at 11:23 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:They have a relatively (i.e. excluding the US) high rate of guns per capita, but the regulations are extremely burdensome, including a national registry and random home inspections. Ownership is largely restricted to sport shooting. Possession is mostly restricted to private property. Self-Defense is not a valid reason for a license (as opposed to competitive sport, hunting, and collecting). As a result, they probably have very few handguns.
Germany has a fairly well armed population. Not as much as the USA, but internationally they are in the top 20
Posted on 6/23/16 at 11:26 am to AwesomeSauce
Posted on 6/23/16 at 11:28 am to AwesomeSauce
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I believe meds play a part in the rehabilitation and care of people in need of mental help, but as a society it seems that is the only fix being used
Probably makes matters worse in some folks. We all want a magic pill, but that just leads to a new baseline of normality.
Posted on 6/23/16 at 11:29 am to upgrayedd
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I agree it would help, but the underlying problems of those communities most affected by gun violence will still remain.
The drug trade and gangs were largely responsible for much of it, not sure that can be fixed in a generation. But it's a start.
Posted on 6/23/16 at 11:30 am to RogerTheShrubber
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The drug trade and gangs were largely responsible for much of it, not sure that can be fixed in a generation. But it's a start.
Sure, but they'll move on to other illegal or black market endeavors. They're not selling drugs because they like to sell drugs. They're selling a black market item because it is the best bang for their buck.
Posted on 6/23/16 at 11:31 am to Captain Lafitte
Story was updated
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LINK
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Special forces have shot a man dead who stormed a cinema in central Germany, authorities have confirmed. Security officials say terror is an unlikely motive.
Hesse's interior minister Peter Beuth told DPA that the man was shot dead after taking hostages inside a cinema in Viernheim central Germany on Thursday afternoon.
No patrons of the cinema complex were injured and all have been released, Hesse state interior minister Peter Beuth told AFP.
"We have no information that anyone was injured," Beuth said, after confirming that the lone gunman was killed in a struggle with police in the western town of Viernheim.
Beuth told reporters that the man had entered the cinema wearing a mask and carrying a long gun. Four shots were fired, but an alarm was set off from inside the building shortly before 3 pm, alerting police.
The man barricaded himself inside the building with hostages. It is not clear whether the man's weapon was lethal.
Special police forces flew in from Frankfurt on a helicopter, overpowered the man and shot him dead.
Security officials are also saying that they do not currently suspect that there was a terrorist motive.
Photo: DPA.
DPA have information from security sources that the man was psychologically disturbed.
So far the motive of the man is unclear, as is anything to do with his identity.
While police have said that the hostages were released uninjured, Bild reported that around 25 had been impaired by tear gas.
Posted on 6/23/16 at 11:33 am to Captain Lafitte
I'm gonna steal that and put in OP. Thanks for the update 
Posted on 6/23/16 at 11:35 am to upgrayedd
Welcome
Posted on 6/23/16 at 11:38 am to lsu2006
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Shut up Lib. The gun death rate in America is only like 10 times that of Germany. Get over it.
To be fair, the gun death rate is higher in the US but the rate of psychopathic dictators taking control of the country and mass murdering by the millions is in Germany's favor.
Posted on 6/23/16 at 11:39 am to JamalSanders
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This isn't completely true and is old.
I honestly thought it said 2014 not 2004. I would imagine that the ~1600 not identified were never recovered. While all of them may be shotguns/rifles that seems unlikely given that roughly 10x more homicides are committed by handguns vs shotguns/rifles. 1,700 knife deaths 700 shotgun/rifle deaths, even if the trend was completely bucked and half of the unidentified were shotguns/rifles then there would still be 200+ more knife deaths.
Posted on 6/23/16 at 11:43 am to AwesomeSauce
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This isn't completely true and is old.
Well according to that .gov website, in 2010 there were 1,732 murders committed with knives and other cutting instruments.
And 826 committed by non-handgun guns.
Posted on 6/23/16 at 11:44 am to TheCaterpillar
Just came home from the lake and saw this. Am I to understand that no one was hurt by the shooter but the teargas injured 25?
Did I read that correct?
Did I read that correct?
Posted on 6/23/16 at 11:48 am to LanierSpots
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Did I read that correct?
It appears to be death by cop using tear gas, a scary artillery belt, and a gun shooting blanks by a mentally unstable man.
Posted on 6/23/16 at 11:51 am to upgrayedd
Mass shooting?
Posted on 6/23/16 at 11:58 am to upgrayedd
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Sure, but they'll move on to other illegal or black market endeavors. They're not selling drugs because they like to sell drugs. They're selling a black market item because it is the best bang for their buck
There really isn't anything as lucrative and easy as the drug trade. Yet.
Posted on 6/23/16 at 11:58 am to AwesomeSauce
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It appears to be death by cop using tear gas, a scary artillery belt, and a gun shooting blanks by a mentally unstable man.
How did 25 get injured?
Do we know
Posted on 6/23/16 at 12:10 pm to upgrayedd
OP needs to change title.
Posted on 6/23/16 at 12:12 pm to Redbone
Will do
Posted on 6/23/16 at 12:14 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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There really isn't anything as lucrative and easy as the drug trade. Yet.
Agree
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