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re: Chip Credit Cards and Readers

Posted on 8/31/16 at 10:00 pm to
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69113 posts
Posted on 8/31/16 at 10:00 pm to
I take chip cards, but NFC is where it's at. They tap their phone to my device and ding, I have their info. Money is in my account before I'm back in my truck.

The square chip readers seem to work faster than the Point Of Sale chip readers. Also chips never wear with use. Magstripes start to mess up after a few months or years of use.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 8/31/16 at 10:09 pm to
They are slow as frick. If I'm trying to grab some candy and need to go poo, I have to start dancing now. My timing is all off
Posted by Rize
Spring Texas
Member since Sep 2011
15816 posts
Posted on 8/31/16 at 10:36 pm to
Better security my arse. My fricking card had been replaced 2 times since they put that chip reader shite on there and never before.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68704 posts
Posted on 8/31/16 at 10:37 pm to
quote:

) Your CC company will dispute charges for you if there's a mistake. With cash, there's no record of anything, so you can forget it.


Yeap
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85019 posts
Posted on 8/31/16 at 10:37 pm to
quote:

Better security my arse. My fricking card had been replaced 2 times since they put that chip reader shite on there and never before.




Why was it replaced?
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68704 posts
Posted on 8/31/16 at 10:40 pm to
quote:

The square chip readers seem to work faster than the Point Of Sale chip readers. Also chips never wear with use. Magstripes start to mess up after a few months or years of use.


Mine failed after a couple of months, card wouldn't read anywhere that had a chip reader, couldn't swipe it, couldn't just type the numbers in, would end up having to go get cash or go shop somewhere else until I got a new one.
Posted by Adam4848
LA
Member since Apr 2006
18974 posts
Posted on 8/31/16 at 10:42 pm to
In my experience. If I try to swipe the reader works. If I try the chip its broken.
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
22290 posts
Posted on 8/31/16 at 10:42 pm to
frick Europe. Go America!!
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 8/31/16 at 10:46 pm to
Capital One has randomly sent me two in the mail since I activated the first one. No idea why, but I just cut them up
Posted by its1999
Member since Aug 2009
1039 posts
Posted on 8/31/16 at 10:51 pm to
quote:

Better security my arse. My fricking card had been replaced 2 times since they put that chip reader shite on there and never before.




Yep this exactly. I've now gone thru 3 credit cards and 2 debit cards since we've switched to chip.

And last week I nearly lost $60 because of the whole "leave your card in the whole long transaction" thing. By the time my 8 foot long grocery receipt printed, I got my bags into the buggy, collected some Kroger stickers for my kids, and put my card away, I'd forgotten about the cash (which is of course dispensed in a whole diff area of the self checkout machine). I don't do cash back often so it wasn't my routine.

Thankfully the cashier saw it immediately after and put it away with a note in her register.
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
38730 posts
Posted on 8/31/16 at 10:59 pm to
quote:

I was told that Europe's been doing this for years and how great it is.


I was just in Europe and their readers take about 2 seconds. Way faster than the crap america is using. And all their readers are portable so they bring the reader to your table in restaurants. Had a waiter tell me that by law I had to be able to see my card at all times is why they do that. They also have pin #s for their CCs. They laughed at me when the reader made me sign. How is a signature gonna keep anything secure? Get in the 21st century america.

quote:

Better security my arse. My fricking card had been replaced 2 times since they put that chip reader shite on there and never before.


Because they can more easily detect potentially fraudulent charges. Duh.
This post was edited on 8/31/16 at 11:02 pm
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37126 posts
Posted on 8/31/16 at 11:26 pm to
They have not been around that long in the US - most banks only started issuing them in the last year or so. One of my banks ( a smaller one) still has not started issuing chip cards yet.

For the cards I have (other debit card and credit card) that have the chip, it might take 3-5 seconds longer. I've never had problems with them not working. What happens more often is that the retailer says the chip reader isn't working, so I just slide the card and keep going.
Posted by 62Tigerfan
Member since Sep 2015
4621 posts
Posted on 8/31/16 at 11:29 pm to
quote:

How is a signature gonna keep anything secure? Get in the 21st century america.


Especially with a debit card. You should NOT be given the option of PIN vs signing. It should always be PIN only. Same for credit cards. Sorry folks, but America is way behind not only Europe, but the entire world on this one.
Posted by txtiger79
Member since Oct 2007
1014 posts
Posted on 8/31/16 at 11:54 pm to
I'm pretty sure European banks do not provide credit card fraud protection to consumers like US banks do. Disputed charges etc etc. The rationale is that if someone else got your card and pin, it's your fault.

With the switch to chip in the US, the liability shifted to retailers if they did not have the ability to accept a chipped card and it remains with banks if they didn't provide chipped cards. Consumers still have the protection.

So our technology may not be great, but the consumer protection is still better.

Anyway the whole thing is a farce because fraudsters gonna fraud and chips don't do jack for online transactions.
Posted by mailman
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
6143 posts
Posted on 8/31/16 at 11:59 pm to
i think they are a waste of time
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 9/1/16 at 12:03 am to
Never had a problem with them myself.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 9/1/16 at 12:58 am to
Never had a problem. Chip works fine, fast too.

I have massive fraud protection on my CCs too.

Need to call my bank and alert them of overseas charges or they will be denied. can be a PITA but probably worth it. Screw Russian and Chinese hackers.
Posted by skinny domino
sebr
Member since Feb 2007
14342 posts
Posted on 9/1/16 at 2:48 am to
quote:

They do take longer to process. However, still shorter in time than the old lady who still writes checks.
and balance her check book and ask the cashier how much wawa u got in your home darlin'
Posted by jmcwhrter
Member since Nov 2012
6580 posts
Posted on 9/1/16 at 3:05 am to
....standing there ... pen in hand... you already know the Payable.. You know your name...write it the frick down ahead of time!

Oh my drivers license? Oh dear....
This post was edited on 9/1/16 at 3:06 am
Posted by fishfighter
RIP
Member since Apr 2008
40026 posts
Posted on 9/1/16 at 3:22 am to
Yep, ate the chip card. Takes forever.
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