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re: Check out this test question from a Social Studies teacher certification exam

Posted on 6/24/14 at 3:25 pm to
Posted by LSU1NSEC
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Posted on 6/24/14 at 3:25 pm to
go back and look at some divorce settlements and probates from that time. a male slave was worth as much (or more) as the estate home in some of the documents i've seen.
Posted by JumpingTheShark
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Posted on 6/24/14 at 3:25 pm to
This question seems to be a matter of opinion to me.
Posted by 12
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Posted on 6/24/14 at 3:26 pm to
This is almost as bad as your Zack Morris thread on the Movie/TV Board. You seem like a sensitive little bitch.
Posted by Jagoff
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Posted on 6/24/14 at 3:30 pm to
Haven't you ever seen Django Unchained? If you read the original script (as opposed to just watching the film), pretty young black girls (referred to as 'ponys') were the 2nd biggest crop next to cotton.
Posted by High C
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Posted on 6/24/14 at 3:31 pm to
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go back and look at some divorce settlements and probates from that time.


Was the divorce brought on by discovery of slave raping by the wife in any of those?
Posted by BRgetthenet
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Posted on 6/24/14 at 3:31 pm to
I took Praxis II for secondary social studies.

There were a lot of bad questions. That could have been a sample question they were thinking of using in the future.
Posted by High C
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Posted on 6/24/14 at 3:34 pm to
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I took Praxis II for secondary social studies


Me, too, but it's been almost 20 years. I don't remember any questions specifically.
Posted by BRgetthenet
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Posted on 6/24/14 at 3:35 pm to
Oh, and that test was written by a company in New Jersey, fwiw.
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 6/24/14 at 3:36 pm to
just when i thought slavery was going away you start this thread

my answer is d
Posted by fouldeliverer
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Posted on 6/24/14 at 3:41 pm to
There are diaries and letters of Southern women who write about the sexual deviance of white men and slaves. Many other texts refer to mulatto children being sold off plantations for looking too similar to their master father.

Any any of these history threads, I think it is important to specifically quote a primary source.

quote:

God forgive us, but ours is a monstrous system and wrong and iniquity. Perhaps the rest of the world is as bad—this only I see. Like the patriarchs of our old men live all in one house with their wives and their concubines, and the mulattoes one sees in every family exactly resemble the white children—and every lady tells you who is the father of all the mulatto children in everybody's household, but those in her own she seems to think drop from the clouds, or pretends so to think.


Mary Boykin Chestnut
This post was edited on 6/24/14 at 3:42 pm
Posted by LSU1NSEC
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Posted on 6/24/14 at 3:44 pm to
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go back and look at some divorce settlements and probates from that time.


Was the divorce brought on by discovery of slave raping by the wife in any of those?


don't know. my Mom does a lot of genealogy and gets all these old documents from court houses - evidently there was a lot of divorce back then from what i've seen - at least in this area
Posted by High C
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Posted on 6/24/14 at 3:45 pm to
Yep. I can't think of any account that I've read in which the wife didn't simply overlook it. That's why I was asking about the divorce situation that, I guess, an attorney or paralegal posted.
Posted by fouldeliverer
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Posted on 6/24/14 at 3:49 pm to
I wouldn't say they simply overlook it, many times the mistress abuses the female slaves she suspects is being sexually abused by her husband, the master. Harriet Jacobs is one case, Patsy 12 years a slave is another example. This is a theme in slave narratives. Unfortunately, we do not have as many surviving documents written by female slaves. As far as women who do divorce their husbands due to, at least partly, their disgust with slavery, Fanny Kemble's divorce of Pierce Butler comes to mind.
This post was edited on 6/24/14 at 3:50 pm
Posted by LSU1NSEC
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Posted on 6/24/14 at 3:51 pm to
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Yep. I can't think of any account that I've read in which the wife didn't simply overlook it. That's why I was asking about the divorce situation that, I guess, an attorney or paralegal posted.


i think louisiana french people divorced more than others

just my take from it anyway - might be wrong
Posted by White Shadeaux
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Posted on 6/24/14 at 3:53 pm to
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This test is claiming it is a fact that one of the things behind slavery was that the owners wanted the ability to rape them for sexual gratification?


No, The test said that it was legal to rape a slave.
This is utter horseshite.

fricking liberals.
Posted by fouldeliverer
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Posted on 6/24/14 at 3:58 pm to
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No, The test said that it was legal to rape a slave. This is utter horseshite.


Wat? You serious? Please tell me you don't actually believe that there were legal ramifications for masters raping their slaves?
This post was edited on 6/24/14 at 4:01 pm
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 6/24/14 at 3:59 pm to
Posted by Tiger1242
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Posted on 6/24/14 at 4:19 pm to
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That's a pretty damn wide blanket to cast for sure. Is it documented that it was the regular practice of slave owners and overseers to rape slaves? Was it in some training manual on how to subjugate their slaves?

It's sticky because, yes, salves were raped and, most likely, on a much wider scale than free peoples. For this question though, and to have it posed as a factual reason that the practice continued, and was fought for, just so they could continue to rape slaves is ridiculous.


Exactly
Posted by MasCervezas
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Posted on 6/24/14 at 4:22 pm to
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but sex
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