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Posted on 7/29/15 at 10:53 am to stonedbegonias
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You may want to try the Poli Board there dip shite.
sorry for rustling your jimmies.
dip shite
Posted on 7/29/15 at 11:06 am to Geekboy
A) why is this news
B) Get the F^&K over it..... it has no direct effect to anyone here.
B) Get the F^&K over it..... it has no direct effect to anyone here.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 11:14 am to 68wDoc68w
There's an entire industry that sells news stories on things that don't directly affect 99% of people. People care about things like this.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 11:19 am to TheIndulger
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People thrive on drama like this.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 11:20 am to FalseProphet
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It only puts it to 0 for those interested in killing the animal. Parks and other areas make tons of money on tourism, so the animals will always have some value.
here is a link with links to a bunch of stuff
LINK
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And it’s not just rhinos. For example, a 2000 report from TRAFFIC, an organization that works with the WWF, IUCN, and CITES to track the international trade of wildlife, describes how Namibia alone was the site of almost 16,000 trophy hunts that year. Those 16,000 animals represent a wide variety of species – birds, reptiles, mammals, and even primates – both endangered and not. They include four of the so-called “big five” popular African game: lion, Cape buffalo, leopard, and rhinoceros. (Only the elephant was missing.) The hunters brought eleven million US dollars with them to spend in the Namibian economy. And that doesn’t include revenue from non-trophy recreational hunting activities, which are limited to four species classified as of “least concern” by the IUCN: Greater Kudu, Gemsbok, Springbok and Warthog.
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Is there such evidence? According to a 2005 paper by Nigel Leader-Williams and colleagues in the Journal of International Wildlife Law and Policy the answer is yes. Leader-Williams describes how the legalization of white rhinoceros hunting in South Africa motivated private landowners to reintroduce the species onto their lands. As a result, the country saw an increase in white rhinos from fewer than one hundred individuals to more than 11,000, even while a limited number were killed as trophies.
In a 2011 letter to Science magazine, Leader-Williams also pointed out that the implementation of controlled, legalized hunting was also beneficial for Zimbabwe’s elephants. “Implementing trophy hunting has doubled the area of the country under wildlife management relative to the 13% in state protected areas,” thanks to the inclusion of private lands, he says. “As a result, the area of suitable land available to elephants and other wildlife has increased, reversing the problem of habitat loss and helping to maintain a sustained population increase in Zimbabwe’s already large elephant population.”
Posted on 7/29/15 at 11:21 am to SlowFlowPro
You know all False Prophet will do is ask me for links instead of acknowledging things already posted in the thread.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 11:22 am to SlowFlowPro
Put a tracker on him, tell him he has 1 hr to go wherever the hell he wants to go and after that hour is up the hunt for him begins.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 11:32 am to LNCHBOX
LINK
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While the idea of devolving authority over wildlife — including the right to allow trophy hunting — to landowners, including communal landowners, has spread in Zimbabwe, Botswana, South Africa, and Namibia, a very different approach is firmly in place elsewhere in Africa, most notably in Kenya. Kenya banned all consumptive use of wild species in 1977: no sport hunting, cropping, ranching, live capture and sale, taxidermy, trophies, or souvenirs. The country used the hunting ban to build its brand as the destination for wildlife tourism in Africa, and it developed a thriving industry that brings in millions of dollars each year.
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Since hunting was banned in Kenya wildlife populations have dropped by 80 percent. There are far too many confounding factors to attribute direct cause and effect of either banning or promoting trophy hunting to the fate of wildlife populations in Kenya and any country in southern Africa, but the dynamic is at least sufficient to give one pause when making the claim that hunting is per se bad for Africa’s wildlife. Yet that is precisely the claim that is often made.
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Blame for the drop in wildlife in Kenya and across Africa cannot at this point by lain at the doorstep of trophy hunters. The leading causes are habitat loss caused by expanding human settlement, agriculture, and other kinds of land use incompatible with wildlife, followed by uncontrolled hunting, usually for bushmeat. In short, uncompetitive returns from wildlife compared with those from livestock or agriculture create incentives for landowners to convert any rangeland with agricultural potential to cultivation.
As habitat disappears, the risk of conflict between people and large and dangerous animals increases. Such conflicts are rarely resolved in favor of wildlife, unless people have exceptionally strong incentives to do so. The challenge of creating such incentives are so significant that some conservationists believe it may be time to abandon the ideal of coexistence and instead admit that the only solution is to separate people and wildlife altogether, with fences.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 11:36 am to SlowFlowPro
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Since hunting was banned in Kenya wildlife populations have dropped by 80 percent.
Since Chicago banned guns the murder rate is the highest in the Nation and the streets are full of guns.
Ironic.
This post was edited on 7/29/15 at 11:38 am
Posted on 7/29/15 at 11:39 am to RUKidding
Poisoning Africa's Lions
where is the outrage?
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The lion population in East Africa has been decimated by poisoning in recent years, Ogada says. In the early 1990s, for instance, the entire population of lions in Amboseli National Park was lost, mainly through poisoning, and it has been estimated that lions will soon be extinct in southern Kenya due to spearing and poisoning. “In western Kenya, bird poachers poison water birds using snails as bait,” says Ogada.
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The reasons wildlife are poisoned include control of damage-causing animals, harvesting for food or traditional medicine, and poaching for wildlife products. All may entail different methods and agents, but all with the same approximate outcome,” she says. The use of poisons as a tool in “bio-warfare” emerged in Southern Africa during colonial times, when strychnine was used for predator control.
where is the outrage?
Posted on 7/29/15 at 11:42 am to SlowFlowPro
SFP, stop trying to diminish their righteous fury over one lion by pointing out lion-ocide.
The Internet warriors can only focus on one thing at a time.
The Internet warriors can only focus on one thing at a time.
This post was edited on 7/29/15 at 11:43 am
Posted on 7/29/15 at 11:42 am to SlowFlowPro
I thought we were talking about lions and how funny it is to watch both sides argue about the best way for humans to solve a problem created by humans.
The article mentioned lions once btw, but I get the point of the article.
The article mentioned lions once btw, but I get the point of the article.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 11:47 am to Scruffy
brah you need to learn how about nuance
unless emotions/feels are involved, and then BLACK AND WHITE RAGE takes over
unless emotions/feels are involved, and then BLACK AND WHITE RAGE takes over
Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:03 pm to SlowFlowPro
It's a shame that such a beloved lion was killed this way.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:05 pm to TheIndulger
i think it's retarded that they allow bow hunts of lions and other big game
Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:06 pm to RUKidding
quote:Not true at all.
Since Chicago banned guns the murder rate is the highest in the Nation and the streets are full of guns.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
Gotta make sure the people with $$ can feel like a badass
Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:04 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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Not true at all.
Correction. Strike Chicago and insert Detroit.
The point is, banning trophy hunting in Africa does not stop trophy hunting in Africa.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:29 pm to RUKidding
I thought that my liberal friends were against the death penalty. After reading their rants about the Lion Dentist, it seems that they're now in favor of both the death penalty and torture.
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