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Posted on 10/19/23 at 9:49 am to
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
14749 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 9:49 am to
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My experience, if you rear end someone you’re typically considered at fault.


I believe that to be the case as well.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
14749 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 9:55 am to
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Percentage increases don't tell us anything if you don't share your current insurance premiums.


$227.33/month
This post was edited on 10/19/23 at 9:56 am
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25736 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 9:56 am to
Any other tickets or accidents in the last 5 years?

Who is your insurance company?
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
14749 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 9:57 am to
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Any other tickets or accidents in the last 5 years?

Who is your insurance company?


No.

Progressive
Posted by TheSadvocate
North Shore
Member since Aug 2020
3829 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 10:03 am to
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Video?



If there are no injuries and no other vehicles, no one is going to ask any private businesses for video of this incident.
Posted by BatonRougeBuckeye
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Aug 2013
1794 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 10:04 am to
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If you can afford to pay out of pocket then pay out of pocket


This. What you might pay to fix vehicle is nothing compared to the increase in premium for 3 years. Cost me about $5000 over 3 years vs about $2500 to just pay for repairs.
Posted by Bullfrog
Institutionalized but Unevaluated
Member since Jul 2010
56367 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 10:05 am to
The repair shop will allegedly sell the damage data to carfax which will/could raise insurance company questions to be prepared for, down the road.

That’s how they make side $$$$, I was told.
This post was edited on 10/19/23 at 10:08 am
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
14749 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 10:06 am to
City camera at the intersection. I just got off the phone with the police department and they are going to try and find the video. I want to see it. You know women always tell the whole story, right?
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25736 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 10:08 am to
Everything is state and zip code specific.

You may even have claims forgiveness depending on how long you've been with Progressive.

As for car rates in general:
You could get a 10-20% increase with no accidents (out of the blue).
Losses/inflation are/is that bad for insurance companies.

I'd guess that you would see a 20% increase for 3 years. Additional increase for 2 more.

You payback about $550 a year for 3 years. Maybe $300 a year for 2 more.
Round numbers up because the base rate (with no accidents) is likely to be going up anyway.

One big drawback is that you get stuck with Progressive. Shopping for new rates are typically 50% worse after an accident like that. And that could last anywhere from 3 to 6 years depending upon an who is underwriting.

Do you have any teenagers?
Any need to add cars in the future?
That 20% increase would be against a higher number if your vehicle/driver situation changes.

If your situation is stagnant (not moving residences. Not changing vehicles/adding vehicles. Not adding drivers), I would probably file the claim.
$2500+ in pocket today is worth paying $2500 extra over the course of the next 5 years.

The other "catch" would be following this up with a ticket or 2nd accident. But that's another set of worries.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30105 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 10:08 am to
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My wife ran into someone the other day. The person she hit left the scene. The cops said they could do a report, but she would be at fault. Here is my question. How much should I expect my premium to increase in two months when it renews?


if she didnt file a report then there is no issue.

if they left she shouldnt have let them do a report.

if you did a report you are SOL and they could double your bill or even drop your coverage, all depends on how much damage there was
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
4288 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 10:09 am to
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City camera at the intersection. I just got off the phone with the police department and they are going to try and find the video.


Unless this is a small town, the police department was probably just giving you lip service. The police don’t even have access to traffic cams. They have to get it from whatever city agency handles traffic.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
14749 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 10:13 am to
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Do you have any teenagers?
Any need to add cars in the future?


That is my worry. I will add my daughter in a year. I am pretty sure I will just pay out of pocket.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
14749 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 10:16 am to
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Unless this is a small town, the police department was probably just giving you lip service. The police don’t even have access to traffic cams. They have to get it from whatever city agency handles traffic.


Lafayette. Two officers tried to access the footage from their car, but that area is notoriously bad for wifi connection and they could not do it.
This post was edited on 10/19/23 at 10:17 am
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
21950 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 10:25 am to
I'd probably ballpark it closer to 50% increase. And Progressive in LA rates 5 years on accidents.

If you decide to pay out of pocket, I'd probably ask the shop to remove the bumper but if they find any additional damage, give you an estimate but don't move forward with any work. That way if the updated estimate is more than you're willing to pay, you can file the claim with Progressive before any actual repairs get started so the adjuster can see everything.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25736 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 10:26 am to
Yup.

Good plan
Posted by BabyTac
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2008
12244 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 10:28 am to
Anyone who pays more to an insurance company than they are required to needs to lower their policy to the bare minimum immediately. Biggest racket in America.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25736 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 10:32 am to
The math changes depending upon what your current premium is.

Your $2700/yr is very different than $4000/yr or God forbid $5500/yr.

Some people are still paying $600/yr full coverage. Others are hovering around $7k+/yr with teen drivers. $10k/yr if they keep luxury vehicles with those teen drivers.

The surcharge for a singular accident without claims forgiveness typically runs 10-20%. There may be additional increases for loss of discounts (accident free,defensive driver, etc..)

Every company is different.
Every zip code is different.
But the numbers above are probably according to the law of averages.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25736 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 10:33 am to
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BabyTac


Checks out.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81715 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 10:36 am to
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Anyone who pays more to an insurance company than they are required to needs to lower their policy to the bare minimum immediately
Holy shite
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
14749 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 10:40 am to
LPD just called me back and confirmed my wife's story that he did just randomly stop at a green light while she was trying to merge. I am not sure if this makes a difference in any of this.
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