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Posted on 2/22/14 at 4:56 pm to LeonPhelps
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one interface for all devices
This is where they fricked up IMO. Put 8 on tablets and smartphones, leave the fricking desktop alone.
Posted on 2/22/14 at 4:57 pm to magildachunks
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Take some time to learn it and familiarize yourself with it, and it is a great OS.
This is the answer. I'm an IT guy for a living, and I did not like it at first at all, actually downgraded my PC back to Windows 7. It really just takes some getting used to, and now that I have been using it for a while again, I'm really liking it. When you figure out how to use it, it saves a lot of time over Windows 7 to open and access your information.
Posted on 2/22/14 at 4:58 pm to stendulkar
Download StartIsBack.
Adds the start button back to give your computer a pre-windows 8 desktop experience, along with a lot of customizable options. Think you can get a 30 day free trial. Only a few bucks to buy it though.
I don't necessarily hate Windows 8, but hardly use the metro aspect. I'm strictly a desktop version user, even with a touchscreen.
I own the Lenovo Yoga Laptop and hardly ever fold it back to use in tablet form. Not because of Windows 8, but rather due to the crappy windows apps. If Windows app store had anywhere near the availability of apps that Android/IOS offer, I'd use metro MUCH more.
Adds the start button back to give your computer a pre-windows 8 desktop experience, along with a lot of customizable options. Think you can get a 30 day free trial. Only a few bucks to buy it though.
I don't necessarily hate Windows 8, but hardly use the metro aspect. I'm strictly a desktop version user, even with a touchscreen.
I own the Lenovo Yoga Laptop and hardly ever fold it back to use in tablet form. Not because of Windows 8, but rather due to the crappy windows apps. If Windows app store had anywhere near the availability of apps that Android/IOS offer, I'd use metro MUCH more.
This post was edited on 2/22/14 at 5:05 pm
Posted on 2/22/14 at 5:28 pm to xXLSUXx
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I can't tell if I hate Windows 8 because it sucks, or if I hate it because I'm getting old. Is this how it happened with the older generations?
It sucks.
Microsoft has a long tradition of alternating good and bad operating systems. 8 is turrible, 7 is good, Vista sucked, XP was good, ME sucked, 98 was good, 95 sucked, 3.1 was good.
Posted on 2/22/14 at 5:34 pm to stendulkar
Eventually, the programs/apps will catch up, and it'll make everything a lot more seamless.
The opening to the desktop is a function of the program not really being compatible with Win 8. When the apps/programs get up to speed, then it'll make more sense.
The opening to the desktop is a function of the program not really being compatible with Win 8. When the apps/programs get up to speed, then it'll make more sense.
Posted on 2/22/14 at 5:47 pm to stendulkar
Windows 8 takes a bit of learning curve. I still prefer 7 by a large margin, but 8 is no Vista or ME.
And from one of the head Windows 8 designers:
Some more good reading on the W8 design. LINK
And from one of the head Windows 8 designers:
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A month ago, Miller made similar comments, going so far as to say that “our main goal [in Windows 8] wasn’t to support touch screens, it’s to separate casual users from pro users.” So if Windows 8 was designed to herd casual and power users into separate corners, why does the OS default to the simplistic modern UI?
“The short answer is because casual users don’t go exploring. If we made desktop the default as it has always been, and included a nice little start menu that felt like home, the casual users would never have migrated to their land of milk and honey… So we forced it upon them. We drove them to it with goads in their sides.”
“Right now we still have a lot of work to do on making Metro seem tasty for those casual users, and that’s going to divert our attention for a while. But once it’s purring along smoothly, we’ll start making the desktop more advanced. We’ll add things that we couldn’t before. Things will be faster, more advanced, and craftier than they have in the past —and that’s why Metro is good for power users.”
Some more good reading on the W8 design. LINK
This post was edited on 2/22/14 at 5:49 pm
Posted on 2/22/14 at 5:54 pm to stendulkar
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Tell me if there is something wrong with my work flow or I am using it wrong. I love working on the latest versions of SW, so booting straight to desktop is sort of chickening out and I don't want to do it. MS obviously wants people to use Metro UI. Show me how to do this seamlessly while multitasking.
If you only want to use classic desktop apps, then stop thinking of metro as a "mode" and just think of it as an app launcher. You don't work in metro, you just use it to launch a new program. Once this clicks in your head the experience will be a lot less jarring.
If you use any metro apps, the mindset is a bit different. There is no taskbar for the same reason there is no taskbar on a tablet or phone: it isn't needed. The logic is it should be the job of the OS to bear the load of managing open programs, not the user's job. It's just a mental load that isn't necessary when using app-style programs. Think about it.. Does it really matter to you whether a program is currently running? Not really. You just switch to it when needed and the OS manages everything else.
I think you will feel a lot more efficient if you just try to forget about what is currently running, and instead focus on what you are doing.
Posted on 2/22/14 at 6:54 pm to stendulkar
When this computer crapped out last week, I had hell getting it fixed, You cant start windows 8 in safe mode. It was a paperweight for a week, I have it working now.
Posted on 2/22/14 at 7:29 pm to bencoleman
Posted on 2/22/14 at 7:35 pm to LSU5803
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LSU5803
I learned the hard way that those options don't work. The only way to start it is in recovery mode.
I am assuming this would change according to whatever brand computer you have.
This post was edited on 2/22/14 at 7:37 pm
Posted on 2/22/14 at 7:35 pm to LSU5803
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LINK
safe mode, windows 8, 8.1
That's a stupid link. Many people don't have a Windows 8 disk to boot off of, and the other options involve first booting to normal mode to enable safe mode. Guess what, there's no fricking reason to boot safe mode unless normal mode won't boot...except maybe to assist cleaning a virus. It's fricking retarded to have removed Safe Mode from the F8 menu before the OS boots. Period.
Posted on 2/22/14 at 7:38 pm to Casty McBoozer
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This is where they fricked up IMO. Put 8 on tablets and smartphones, leave the fricking desktop alone.
This is the biggest difference i see. If you have a tablet, or touch pc, smartphone, etc. You can navigate Windows 8 the way it was intended to be. But on a pc, with a mouse. It is just awkward. It would be like trying IOS 7 which is on my iphone on my laptop. It would be counter intuitive.
EDIT: I think they assumed also that all laptops and pc desktops would be "touch" soon. So Windows 8 would be perfect for that and tablets. But the problem is the pc world has not really changed over to all touch screens, as fast as Microsoft i think thought they would.
This post was edited on 2/22/14 at 7:42 pm
Posted on 2/22/14 at 7:39 pm to Casty McBoozer
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Casty
You know what kind of hell I had with this computer. I just hope I learned something from it.
Posted on 2/22/14 at 7:44 pm to Casty McBoozer
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Guess what, there's no fricking reason to boot safe mode unless normal mode won't boot...except maybe to assist cleaning a virus. It's fricking retarded to have removed Safe Mode from the F8 menu before the OS boots. Period.
luckily i had to do this with my mom's computer and she only had a virus issue. my mind was blown about safe mode access
Posted on 2/22/14 at 7:48 pm to SlowFlowPro
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SlowFlowPro
I couldn't get this laptop to do anything, I even took it to a guy that builds and works on them and he couldn't do anything with it. Hopeful Doc came up with the solution. I owe him a big thank you.
Posted on 3/7/14 at 6:40 am to bencoleman
I didn't read much of the above posts, but I bought a laptop recently (ASUS Q550) and it came with Windows 8.1. I LOVE it. It's a touch-screen so maybe that's part of my affection, but I like the new metro UI they brought to the OS. It's fully customizable as well so I just put whatever I want on there and it's super convenient.
Posted on 3/7/14 at 6:54 am to BottomlandBrew
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“The short answer is because casual users don’t go exploring. If we made desktop the default as it has always been, and included a nice little start menu that felt like home, the casual users would never have migrated to their land of milk and honey… So we forced it upon them. We drove them to it with goads in their sides.”
Like herding sheep
Posted on 3/7/14 at 6:54 am to stendulkar
Windows 8 is a great OS.
As long as you never touch the Metro UI
As long as you never touch the Metro UI
Posted on 3/7/14 at 7:10 am to forksup
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Do you have a touchscreen? This makes Windows 8 infinitely more useable
i work at a desk with 2 22" monitors on one side and a keyboard on a pullout drawer on the other side. The monitors are about 42" away from my eyes when i'm at the keyboard. WTF am i going to do with a touchscreen?
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