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Cali man has $29k siezed in Chicago airport without charges

Posted on 8/13/18 at 3:58 pm
Posted by NYNolaguy1
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Posted on 8/13/18 at 3:58 pm
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A Yuba City man says law enforcement confiscated his money but he didn’t commit a crime. Now he’s fighting to get back tens of thousands of dollars.

Yuba City resident Josh Gingerich buys and flips trucks. A recent buying trip to do that cost him a bag of cash which was seized by a U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) drug interdiction task force at O’Hare Airport.

“A little over 29 grand,” the amount taken said Gingerich who was not arrested and did not break any laws. “No marijuana, no drugs.”


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Gingerich said he was set up by the officers who he says claimed to smell marijuana on a plastic bag filled with dirty laundry in his backpack. He said officers dumped the clothes, filled the bag with cash, then brought it to the drug dog.

“They can just do what they want,” said Gingerich.

Within the United States, it is legal to carry cash, says Benjamin Ruddell of the ACLU.

“There’s no prohibition on carrying cash, or carrying a large amount of cash,” said Ruddell who points out what they believe is flawed with the DEA Civil Asset Forfeiture Program.


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“If the purpose of this is to disrupt illegal drug activity…we’d see some of these people be arrested,” said Ruddell.

Last March, the U.S. Justice Department Inspector General released a report saying from 2007–2016, the DEA seized $3.2 billion with zero convictions tied to this money.


Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 8/13/18 at 4:01 pm to
Jeff Sessions reads stories like this instead of watching porn.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 4:01 pm to
CAF is BS but if you are going to carry over 10k you might want to have proof of where that cash came from.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
35699 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 4:02 pm to
I’m sure he was up to something.
Posted by Tiger Roux
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
4940 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 4:02 pm to
that is one f... up law.
Posted by FalseProphet
Mecca
Member since Dec 2011
11708 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 4:03 pm to
Every politician who is in favor of no-crime civil asset forfeiture should be in front of illegals in the deportation line.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101870 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 4:04 pm to
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Jeff Sessions reads stories like this instead of watching porn.


Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85469 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 4:04 pm to
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CAF is BS but if you are going to carry over 10k you might want to have proof of where that cash came from.


It wouldn't matter in this case. You could have a bank receipt, but if the dog tips it off, they're seizing it. It's ridiculous.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20966 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 4:05 pm to
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CAF is BS but if you are going to carry over 10k you might want to have proof of where that cash came from.


I think the basic question is why does simply carrying cash imply required suspicion?

No one stopping random people on the road (yet) when they have a nice car or expensive jewelry and demanding explanations.
Posted by Keys Open Doors
In hiding with Tupac & XXXTentacion
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 8/13/18 at 4:06 pm to
Other than filing a lawsuit, what recourse can an individual have to getting his money back?
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20966 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 4:07 pm to
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I’m sure he was up to something.


"Show me the man and I will find his crime."
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 4:09 pm to
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I think the basic question is why does simply carrying cash imply required suspicion?


I get it, I agree. It's bullshite.

It's just how it is though. Those PD's want their grubby paws on it and you might want to have proof of where it came from.
This post was edited on 8/13/18 at 4:11 pm
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
14839 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 4:10 pm to
CAF is your bat signal!!
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20966 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 4:11 pm to
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Other than filing a lawsuit, what recourse can an individual have to getting his money back?


Nothing. Your property has far fewer rights than you do. Chief among them is the lack of right to counsel, habeas corpus, and presumption of guilt. Your property is presumed guilty and you have to prove your that it is innocent, or else you lose it- all the while paying an attorney to get it back- its the ultimate racket.
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
15962 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 4:13 pm to
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Within the United States, it is legal to carry cash, says Benjamin Ruddell of the ACLU.

Thank God they cleared that up.
Posted by BayouFann
CenLa
Member since Jun 2012
6879 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 4:13 pm to
Cross state lines with more than $9k and you kinda deserve your headache
Posted by mofungoo
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2012
4583 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 4:15 pm to
If a person is carrying more cash than will fit in a wallet it is subject to confiscation by the authorities. Welcome to Amerika.
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
14839 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 4:15 pm to
As with most beaucracy, there should be common sense logic.

But CAF as it currently stands is just a blanket objective.

There's an obvious difference in using CAF against a known drug trafficker, criminal entity, etc etc..and some dude flying to do business.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20966 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 4:16 pm to
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Cross state lines with more than $9k and you kinda deserve your headache


This post was edited on 8/13/18 at 4:18 pm
Posted by Pat Sajak
New Orleans
Member since May 2009
755 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 4:16 pm to
How is that deserving?
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