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Boss etiquette question
Posted on 4/3/24 at 9:27 am
Posted on 4/3/24 at 9:27 am
I was recently called into a meeting with 15 minutes notice, and my boss (head of operations) explained to me and my colleague that our department (manufacturing engineering) was being moved from his supervision to the head of planning because the entire planning team had quit on him, and he needed our support in that department. Here's the kicker, my old boss (HOO) chose to inform us of this with no prior notice, and the head of planning in the room while we were being informed. On a scale of no big deal to frick you, how much would this anger you?
Notes:
-I've been at this company 10 years, old boss has been with company for one year.
-New boss has been at company 15 years and has retained absolutely zero people more than 5 years in that time.
-New boss has less education than me.
Notes:
-I've been at this company 10 years, old boss has been with company for one year.
-New boss has been at company 15 years and has retained absolutely zero people more than 5 years in that time.
-New boss has less education than me.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 9:30 am to Tangineck
Do you like your old boss? Do you like the new boss?
Posted on 4/3/24 at 9:30 am to LSURussian
One of our employees died of a stroke back on 3-24. Our boss did not tell us of this fact until 4-2-24.
WTF ?
WTF ?
Posted on 4/3/24 at 9:35 am to Dawgfanman
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Do you like your old boss? Do you like the new boss?
I don't have anything against either on a personal level. One strikes me as in over his head, and the both lack self awareness.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 9:38 am to Tangineck
I’ve found that in business people don’t really do things to you but they do them for themselves.
Maybe they have poor planning skills or just procrastinated making the decision or announcement
Maybe they have poor planning skills or just procrastinated making the decision or announcement
Posted on 4/3/24 at 9:41 am to Tangineck
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I don't have anything against either on a personal level. One strikes me as in over his head, and the both lack self awareness.
Which one do you prefer to report to? That’s what would determine, for me if it bothered me at all.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 9:42 am to Tangineck
I work in a position where I have to move resources (read: people) around from client to client fairly often, which is essentially what happened here with you. It sucks sometimes, but sometimes it's just what has to be done, how does telling you a day before going into the meeting change anything? If you don't have a say in the matter, it shouldn't matter how much notice you get for the change.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 9:43 am to Tangineck
Maybe your bosses just found out. Depending on organization size and communications things stay under wraps for reasons lower level people aren’t privy to.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 9:52 am to Gorilla Ball
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I’ve found that in business people don’t really do things to you but they do them for themselves.
Maybe they have poor planning skills or just procrastinated making the decision or announcement
I keep telling myself that this is the case. Old boss is socially awkward and I could tell he wasn't happy with having to tell us.
The biggest peeve I have about it is that he chose to do it with the new boss in the room. I worked directly under him for a year. Tell me in private, then call new boss into the room. Having to have the new boss in the room reeks of weak leadership and fear of the response in my opinion, but I am pretty rigid in that way.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 9:57 am to Tangineck
Maybe you are not as important as you think you are.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 9:57 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
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Maybe your bosses just found out. Depending on organization size and communications things stay under wraps for reasons lower level people aren’t privy to.
This was my first thought as well. The way OP worded it, "the entire planning team had quit on him" makes it sound like there was a coordinated move by the employees that just happened and/or they were planning it and upper management was trying to either get them to stay or figure out the solution.
The fact that OP appears to have been unaware of an entire team quitting makes me believe this is a pretty sizeable company. And the larger the company is, the slower news of this magnitude makes it way around.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 10:00 am to Tangineck
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no big deal
life is tough, get a helmet.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 10:01 am to TDTOM
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Maybe you are not as important as you think you are.
That's why I'm being tasked with helping weakest department right?
Posted on 4/3/24 at 10:07 am to Tangineck
life is hard,,,get a helmet
Posted on 4/3/24 at 10:08 am to Tangineck
That is why you were told and not asked.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 10:08 am to Weekend Warrior79
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The fact that OP appears to have been unaware of an entire team quitting makes me believe this is a pretty sizeable company. And the larger the company is, the slower news of this magnitude makes it way around.
I was aware of them leaving. Just unaware that it would fall in my lap. I don't mind helping the department, it's the way it was done.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 10:11 am to TDTOM
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That is why you were told and not asked.
I haven't signed the papers chief. I won't be "told" what to do.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 10:13 am to Tangineck
You sound a bit like a peckerhead. But only a little bit.
You wanted to be told in private so you could be rigid and voice your opinion? Your opinion doesn't matter and wouldn't have changed the decision.
If you want to stay employed at this company you have to adapt to the change. Management isn't changing a org restructure because you didn't get your opinion on the restructure.
You wanted to be told in private so you could be rigid and voice your opinion? Your opinion doesn't matter and wouldn't have changed the decision.
If you want to stay employed at this company you have to adapt to the change. Management isn't changing a org restructure because you didn't get your opinion on the restructure.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 10:13 am to Tangineck
quote:why? it's not like that would change anything.
Tell me in private, then call new boss into the room.
This post was edited on 4/3/24 at 10:14 am
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