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re: Biker Shootout at the Twin Peaks in Waco, TX

Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:34 am to
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140464 posts
Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:34 am to
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In this country you're innocent until proven guilty


How many guilty verdicts have been meted out?
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:34 am to
How much will it cost me to get into the biker world these days?
Posted by BigSECfan
Member since May 2015
39 posts
Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:37 am to
Yeah that's probably not a good idea. I'm a pretty peaceful guy. But at the end of the day if you ain't family or a friend I honestly don't have a soft spot for many others.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
64579 posts
Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:37 am to
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(2) This isn't about the police coming to someones home..These degenerates were congregated and fighting each other



Except the video from inside, where almost all the bikers were btw, shows there was no fighting going on in there and instead everyone was taking cover. Then there's the bikers who rode up moments AFTER the shootout who were arrested. Who do you suppose they were fighting?
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140464 posts
Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:37 am to
$132 fitty for a leather vest
$23 fitty for a cool harley t-shirt from Destin
$3 fitty for patches
$12 fitty for dad jeans from the 2nd hand store
$0 to ride bitch

You can get in for under $200 fitty by my count
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Member since Feb 2013
9346 posts
Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:38 am to
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Except the video from inside


Inside their homes, or the public business, that they were disturbing...

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Who do you suppose they were fighting?


They were coming to help their trashy friends..Why would they have even been on the way if they didn't know something was going to go down
This post was edited on 6/2/15 at 11:41 am
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
64579 posts
Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:41 am to
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that's for a jury, not for the police. Innocent people get arrested. Trials sort it out.


Nevermind the fact there was ZERO evidence saying that most of these people did anything. And nevermind they even arrested people who pulled up after the supposed shootout. Let's go ahead and arrest them anyway, set their bond at a million fricking dollars, seize and sell their bike, and let them sit in jail for weeks while the PD has no proof they did anything at all.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140464 posts
Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:43 am to
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seize and sell their bike


Their bikes are sold already?

The Police don't need proof. They need probably cause. They had to arrest them all or none. Tough choice for the few innocents that were snagged.

I bet they've all learned to stay away from this type of event going forward.
Posted by BigSECfan
Member since May 2015
39 posts
Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:47 am to
It is impossible to have a conversation with you about this. You view it too far from an insiders perspective.

You've obviiously never spent a couple of weeks in jail. It's boring as feck, might be hot and uncomfortable. Food is crap. Have to smell other dudes stank all day.

But, il tell ya. It makes you reflect if you are on the fence. Some are not correctable and it will become their lifestyle. Some will just be all like. Man, I ain't doing this shite any more.

For a little comedy relief. Perhaps you remember this Darth. I laughed my arse off for days watching this unfold.

"Bartlett said he uses donations and special deals to make money. As an ex­ample, Bartlett said he and a neighboring sheriff recently split the $1,000 cost for an 18-wheeler full of corn dogs.

Prisoners testified they ate corn dogs twice a day for weeks"

lol. Corn dogs! Read the whole story here. Cracks me up. Wrong yeah kinda. Cruel? Maybe a little tiny. Punishing for sure, especially in our entitled society.

LINK
Posted by Agforlife
Somewhere in the Brazos Valley
Member since Nov 2012
20102 posts
Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:49 am to
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I bet they've all learned to stay away from this type of event going forward.




If I know the biker community in Texas the next COC&I meeting will have to be held at a convention center to hold all the people who will show up.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
64579 posts
Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:49 am to
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Inside their homes, or the public business, that they were disturbing...



What the hell are you talking about? The cops claimed this whole fight started inside Twin Peak and then spilled out in the parking lot where the shooting started. Well AP has seen surveillance videos from 9 different angles inside Twin Peaks and there was no fight at all. All that happened was people started taking cover when bullets started flying outside. Up to that point, there was no disturbance in the restaurant.

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They were coming to help their trashy friends..


Video shows people taking cover from bullets coming at the restaurant. The only ones in position to fire into Twin Peaks was the Waco PD SWAT.

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Why would they have even been on the way if they didn't know something was going to go down



Are you serious? They were on their way to a monthly COC meeting. The meeting had not even got started yet.
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Member since Feb 2013
9346 posts
Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:52 am to
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What the hell are you talking about?


He asked how you would feel about police coming to your house...That isn't what happened here..

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The only ones in position to fire into Twin Peaks was the Waco PD SWAT.


They fired in the direction of the bikers

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They were on their way to a monthly COC meeting. The meeting had not even got started yet.


There were weapons recovered right..?
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140464 posts
Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:52 am to
SWAT just opened fire on the restaurant for no reason??? Is that what you are saying? If so, someone needs to be fired and convicted.

Posted by Agforlife
Somewhere in the Brazos Valley
Member since Nov 2012
20102 posts
Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:54 am to
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There were weapons recovered right..?




Yeah, this is Texas and there are a lot and I mean a lot of CC permits in this state, so yeah I'm sure there were weapons recovered, just as I'm most likely sure you are carrying a weapon right now.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
64579 posts
Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:54 am to
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Their bikes are sold already?


They will soon be.

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The Police don't need proof. They need probably cause.


For the vast majority of the bikers there, they didn't have probable cause.

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They had to arrest them all or none.


That's breathtakingly stupid. It scares me that you get to vote with such a fundamental lack of understanding of the constitution.

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Tough choice for the few innocents that were snagged.


Yeah, frick the constitution.

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I bet they've all learned to stay away from this type of event going forward.



That's exactly what we want in this country. Let's give the cops the ability to dissuade people from attending a political meeting.
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
Ms Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2004
18664 posts
Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:54 am to
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Are you serious? They were on their way to a monthly COC meeting. The meeting had not even got started yet


COC's are run by outlaw biker gangs. They bully non outlaw clubs to join. COC's are nothing but a scam to make money for the outlaw biker gangs like the Banditos.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140464 posts
Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:56 am to
Wait, the CoC is now a political meeting? They were deciding on which Presidential candidate to support???
This post was edited on 6/2/15 at 11:57 am
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Member since Feb 2013
9346 posts
Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:56 am to
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I'm sure there were weapons recovered,


I believe the types of weapons found would be my point...

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I'm most likely sure you are carrying a weapon right now.


Not right now, right now...
Posted by Agforlife
Somewhere in the Brazos Valley
Member since Nov 2012
20102 posts
Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:57 am to
The COC'S have always been political you idiot, go to a few different COC websites and educate yourself
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
64579 posts
Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:58 am to
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There were weapons recovered right..?



BTW, these are among what the police are calling weapons....




(That's a small about 2-3" chain called a vest extender)

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