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re: BALTIMORE Officers charged - one with murder
Posted on 5/1/15 at 1:06 pm to Styxion
Posted on 5/1/15 at 1:06 pm to Styxion
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depraved heart murder
“A depraved heart murder is often described as a wanton and willful killing. The term ‘depraved heart’ means something more than conduct amounting to a high or unreasonable risk to human life. The perpetrator must [or reasonably should] realize the risk his behavior has created to the extent that his conduct may be termed willful. Moreover, the conduct must contain an element of viciousness or contemptuous disregard for the value of human life which conduct characterized that behavior as wanton.” The piece adds, “The critical feature of ‘depraved heart’ murder is that the act in question be committed ‘under circumstances manifesting extreme indifference to the value of human life.”
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Posted on 5/1/15 at 1:07 pm to Count Chocula
Still have to go to trial, will they have evidence beyond a reasonable doubt. Wait until the riots if they get off or lesser sentences.
Posted on 5/1/15 at 1:07 pm to jbgleason
How many times is this thread going to be started today?
Posted on 5/1/15 at 1:07 pm to jdd48
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"No one is above the law," declared Mosby
Good all those frickers that rioted will get whats coming to them, every single one of them
Posted on 5/1/15 at 1:09 pm to Styxion
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Wtf is this?
showed indifference to life or safety. In other words, cop DGAF
Posted on 5/1/15 at 1:10 pm to nicholastiger
What are the odds one of them pleads out to testify against the others?
Posted on 5/1/15 at 1:11 pm to theunknownknight
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How many times is this thread going to be started today?
Once?
I searched and didn't see a single thread that listed the officers charges. Stands to reason it would have been on the first three pages. Not to mention that everyone else posting seems to think this is new as well.
UNLESS you are implying that others are going to start threads after this one. In which case, I don't know what to tell you but your are correct that it may well happen.
Posted on 5/1/15 at 1:12 pm to NYNolaguy1
Are they saying that extreme, grand theft auto style driving with no regard for safety or human life is what killed the guy? Only the driver is getting hit with the "depraved heart" charges correct?
Posted on 5/1/15 at 1:18 pm to jdd48
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Are they saying that extreme, grand theft auto style driving with no regard for safety or human life is what killed the guy? Only the driver is getting hit with the "depraved heart" charges correct?
I didn't listen to the press conference, just read it on here.
Posted on 5/1/15 at 1:22 pm to jbgleason
Posted on 5/1/15 at 1:26 pm to jdd48
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Are they saying that extreme, grand theft auto style driving with no regard for safety or human life is what killed the guy? Only the driver is getting hit with the "depraved heart" charges correct?
Yes. The lone murder charge. Cuffed and shackled but not restrained, then a wild ride to bang him around the inside of the van. Apparently, this is a pretty common practice in some cities.
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Three of the five others were charged with manslaughter. Maybe leaving open the possibility that injuries during the arrest contributed to his death. Most of the charges, though, stem from the arrest being deemed unlawful. I haven't been able to figure out which officers, if any, accompanied the van. That might explain why three others were charged with manslaughter.
Posted on 5/1/15 at 1:31 pm to Speedy G
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Yes. The lone murder charge. Cuffed and shackled but not restrained, then a wild ride to bang him around the inside of the van. Apparently, this is a pretty common practice in some cities.
This could be proven or disproven pretty easily, I'd think, if police transport vehicles contain some sort of black box or tracking technology.
Posted on 5/1/15 at 1:37 pm to jdd48
The statement they had from the other prisoner in the van said that the ride was uneventful.
But that guy is now retracting his statements and saying the police used them out of context... AFTER his life was directly threatened by people associated with the protests. Yeah, these people really want justice. Kill anyone who disagrees with how they think it went down.
But that guy is now retracting his statements and saying the police used them out of context... AFTER his life was directly threatened by people associated with the protests. Yeah, these people really want justice. Kill anyone who disagrees with how they think it went down.
Posted on 5/1/15 at 1:37 pm to jdd48
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This could be proven or disproven pretty easily, I'd think, if police transport vehicles contain some sort of black box or tracking technology.
Probably GPS, but I don't know how reliable that is. Either way, driver accelerates then slams on the brakes, perp goes crashing against the inside of the van. GPS won't explain why the sudden stop. Maybe a dash cam.
I think the driver initially refused to provide a report, essentially pleading the fifth. I don't know if he ever changed his mind.
Posted on 5/1/15 at 1:46 pm to Ellis Dee
Jesus, what is the story behind that gif? 
Posted on 5/1/15 at 1:49 pm to Sisyphus
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Jesus, what is the story behind that gif?
I think the guy was just firing off random rounds in the middle of the street, so the officers thought that was the best way to stop him.
Posted on 5/1/15 at 1:52 pm to Sisyphus
I think the rioting is despicable but I think there is something up here and always have.
Once this is over and done with I think they will find the arresting officers pinned Gray down with a knee to the neck and then Gray got a "rough ride" while handcuffed in the back of the van. IE they killed him in the course of only meaning to beat his arse for making them run.
And that my friends is manslaughter.
Once this is over and done with I think they will find the arresting officers pinned Gray down with a knee to the neck and then Gray got a "rough ride" while handcuffed in the back of the van. IE they killed him in the course of only meaning to beat his arse for making them run.
And that my friends is manslaughter.
Posted on 5/1/15 at 1:52 pm to 805tiger
The outcome is so predictable. The current Baltimore political system and non-guilty verdicts for the white officers are mutually exclusive. The black officers will get a pass. The fix is in.
This post was edited on 5/1/15 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 5/1/15 at 1:58 pm to tigerpawl
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The verdicts are so predictable.
I'd try to get this trial out of Baltimore. Do it somewhere else.
Posted on 5/1/15 at 2:02 pm to MLSter
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Good all those frickers that rioted will get whats coming to them, every single one of them
Are you refering to these rioters?
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