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Auschwitz survivors to return after 75 years for memorial ceremony

Posted on 1/27/20 at 6:51 am
Posted by dewster
Chicago
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Posted on 1/27/20 at 6:51 am
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Auschwitz survivors to return after 75 years for memorial ceremony



LINK - The Guardian

More than 200 survivors are to gather at the former Nazi extermination camp of Auschwitz, many probably for the final time, to commemorate the 75th anniversary of its liberation.

As rows over the make-up of the international guest list at the memorial ceremony threatened to overshadow Monday’s event, survivors who drew on harrowing memories of their incarceration warned the lessons from the atrocities sanctioned by Adolf Hitler’s administration and carried out often by ordinary Germans were in danger of being forgotten.


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The survivors in attendance are aged between 75 – a woman who was born in the camp – and 101. They have travelled from all over the world, mainly North America and across Europe, Israel, South and Central America and Australia. Organisers said the precise number of attendees would not be confirmed until the actual ceremony on Monday afternoon, due to their often fragile health conditions, and the psychological strain of returning, which had already led to some cancellations. A large team of 50 therapists and medics are on hand to attend to the survivors and their also often elderly offspring



This post was edited on 1/27/20 at 7:06 am
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 1/27/20 at 6:53 am to
Long time
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Posted by slinger1317
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Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 1/27/20 at 6:56 am to
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Lenga, who was 17 when he entered the camp in summer 1944, survived in part by making woollen jackets for SS guards out of camp blankets, for which he received extra food rations. He later went on to become a successful tailor in Beverly Hills. He said he had refused to let the Holocaust define his life, despite the fact it claimed 98 members of his family, with him and his father the only two to survive.

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Angela Orosz, 75, from Montreal, stood in front of former red-brick barracks and recalled her mother’s account of giving birth to her in secret on a top bunk in Auschwitz-Birkenau in December 1944. "Because my mother had probably survived because of the peelings she had eaten and the goodness in them, she had been able to give birth to me and so I had survived, so of course the survival instinct I inherited from her made me always do the same.”


Contrast these anecdotes to the snowflakes we have today. These older generation folks are dying out and I'm worried we won't have people with enough stones to replace them.
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 1/27/20 at 7:05 am to

If I went through what they did, there's no way I'd set foot in that place again.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25358 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 7:06 am to
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Long time


Not that long...
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119174 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 7:18 am to
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Contrast these anecdotes to the snowflakes we have today. These older generation folks are dying out and I'm worried we won't have people with enough stones to replace them.


I don't think there is any question as a civilization we are in decline from being strong willed people.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/27/20 at 7:22 am to
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Angela Orosz, 75, from Montreal, stood in front of former red-brick barracks and recalled her mother’s account of giving birth to her in secret on a top bunk in Auschwitz-Birkenau in December 1944. "Because my mother had probably survived because of the peelings she had eaten and the goodness in them, she had been able to give birth to me and so I had survived, so of course the survival instinct I inherited from her made me always do the same.”


That is amazing. More about her story:

LINK

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“I was one pound when I was born, so therefore I didn't have any energy to cry,” Orosz said. The newborn’s inability to cry likely saved her life, her mother would go on to tell her.


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Orosz said her mother told her that a mere three hours after giving birth, she had to be standing for the camp’s regular roll calls.

She said her mother told her it was very cold that day, but that she didn’t feel it because, after giving birth, there was a “fire” in her.

Orosz said her mother thought: “I am responsible. I have to save the baby.’”

The infant was hidden on her mother’s top bunk for six weeks. She didn’t even officially have a name until the Soviets liberated the camp exactly 75 years ago.


Posted by Bawcephus
Member since Jul 2018
2747 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 7:24 am to
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Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.
Posted by 4WHLN
Drinking at the Cottage Inn
Member since Mar 2013
7581 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 7:26 am to
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Contrast these anecdotes to the snowflakes we have today. These older generation folks are dying out and I'm worried we won't have people with enough stones to replace them.

THIS!

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." - George Santayana
Posted by Placebeaux
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Member since Jun 2008
51852 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 7:43 am to
IDK some of these stories seem far fetched especially when you apply the scientific research thats come out over the years. Its a sad time in history for sure but a lot of these stories have been debunked and some have admitted to making them up. None the less it was a very tough time in history for many and that generation went through far more than most.
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
24413 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 7:47 am to
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IDK some of these stories seem far fetched especially when you apply the scientific research thats come out over the years. Its a sad time in history for sure but a lot of these stories have been debunked and some have admitted to making them up. None the less it was a very tough time in history for many and that generation went through far more than most.


There always has to be one. Congrats on being that guy.
Posted by Placebeaux
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Posted on 1/27/20 at 7:50 am to
Sorry I dont just believe everything Im told. I like to read about history from all perspectives.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51283 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 7:57 am to
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Sorry I dont just believe everything Im told.


So...you don't think the woman was born in the concentration camp, kept hidden, and then liberated by the Soviets?
Posted by CarrolltonTiger
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2005
50291 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 8:02 am to
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Not that long...




In the scale of human life expectancy (and no other way to measure a revisit by an individual) it actually is a very long time.
Posted by Placebeaux
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51852 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 8:06 am to
Doesnt seem possible to me.
Posted by VolsOut4Harambe
Atlanta, GA
Member since Sep 2017
12856 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 8:12 am to
I still to this day can't believe what possessed the Nazis (the SS in particular) to treat human beings the way they did.

They couldn't all have been evil SOB's?
Posted by FLBooGoTigs1
Nocatee, FL.
Member since Jan 2008
54517 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 8:17 am to
Crazy that this world was that fricked up not that long ago. Say what you want about now but to know the mass executions of that many people is just crazy to me. Bless those people that returned there.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25358 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 8:57 am to
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In the scale of human life expectancy (and no other way to measure a revisit by an individual) it actually is a very long time.


It was a fricked up time in human history - right smack in the middle of the 20th century.

Hard to believe it could happen in the fairly modern age. While that generation is dying out and will be gone soon - the scale and shock of what they went through would seem impossible for modern times if I didn't know better.

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Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
19301 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:18 am to
Doesn't seem possible to me"? How much have you read, not just about Auschwitz but the Holocaust as a whole.? There have been thousands of survivor stories that boggle the minds of those who were not there. How plausible, for one who was not there, is it for a German medical doctor to pluck out the eyes of 1000's of Jewish children & pin them up on his walls? Or a German engineer in the SS, lining face up, 30 Jewish teenagers in the middle of a road & having panzer tanks after panzer tanks roll over them till they were just wet spots on the road? Both incredibly educated men. How plausible is that, really? Point being, there is nothing "plausible" about what happened in Auschwitz or during the Holocaust. Yet it all happened.
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
4312 posts
Posted on 1/27/20 at 9:20 am to
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I don't think there is any question as a civilization we are in decline from being strong willed people.


Each generation will get progressively softer as technology makes our lives easier.
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