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re: ascension to bring $30 MM property tax to vote (recreation)

Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:02 pm to
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:02 pm to
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IIRC, they tried to develop a growth plan several years ago but the locals came out with their pitchforks, claiming they were trying to turn ascension into a socialist European-like state.


Maybe so, I don't really remember it. Probably wanted to pass a tax to fund a survey on it.

Seriously, there is a ton of waste in this parish and until they get real about managing their budget they will just raise property taxes until we are at the level of Mandeville with none of the perks.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:15 pm to
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Ascension has some of the lowest property taxes in the nation.



Louisiana as a whole fits this.

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Where is the waste?

Militarized police force, park system trying to compete with BREC, drainage department that either has its hands tied or is ineffective, public school system that fights each other rather than doing its job, tax breaks out the arse for everyone but the residents.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:23 pm to
It seems like we are misplacing our priorities here in the AP. We need to focus on drainage and sewage works, improving, maintaining and designing road infrastructure developing new programs for our schools like a magnet program, and getting a handle on the commercial and real estate developers running wild in this parish. If we're not careful, we could end up like BR.

I'm leaning towards voting against this tax.
Posted by urinetrouble
Member since Oct 2007
20510 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:28 pm to
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Militarized police force,


What does this mean? You think there need to be less cops on the streets?

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park system trying to compete with BREC


What's the issue here? Are you trying to say Ascension should tell their residents to go to EBR for parks and recreation?

At least give the people some trails and couple dog parks.

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public school system that fights each other rather than doing its job


Is this reflected in school performance?

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tax breaks out the arse for everyone but the residents.


So raise taxes on who? Businesses?

Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37162 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:29 pm to
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And just to humor your assertion. Commercial leases typically have 5 years contracts, larger entities might have 10-15. The property owner (landlord) cannot pass on the raise to the tenant.


Most commercial leases in the suburbs are triple net. Meaning, the lessee is responsible for the net property tax.

Further, residential leases are generally for a yaer, meaning, the cost will be quickly passed on
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:34 pm to
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If we're not careful, we could end up like BR.


What happens when you elect people who recently moved out of BR.
Posted by Asgard Device
The Daedalus
Member since Apr 2011
11562 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:43 pm to
Ascension needs their own St George before it's too late and people start forcing them to get parks and recreation. I mean, what's next? Bike lanes?
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:48 pm to
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You think there need to be less cops on the streets?


Yes.

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Are you trying to say Ascension should tell their residents to go to EBR for parks and recreation?

I'm saying we don't need to compete overnight with a system that took decades to build.

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least give the people some trails and couple dog parks.


I could get behinf these ideas. Inexpensive and logical solutions. We don't have these.


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Is this reflected in school performance?


I can't think it is helping to redraw district lines every couple of years and play favoritism with certain schools.

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So raise taxes on who? Businesses?



I'm against raising taxes on anyone. However, since that isn't their plan then yes. At least make them carry their weight.

Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:49 pm to
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I mean, what's next? Bike lanes


Another cheap and logical move, it takes a few gallons of paint. Ascension has none and with all the roads being improved I think 42 is the only one with a hint of this happening.
Posted by GeauxColonels
Tottenham Fan | LSU Fan
Member since Oct 2009
25604 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 10:02 pm to
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I knew there was a resin for it, just didn't know the reason. Thanks.

I'm in banking and we use M for thousands and MM for millions. I'm so accustomed to it that I didn't even think twice when I read the thread title.
Posted by CT
Kate Upton's back
Member since Sep 2004
21054 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 10:12 pm to
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It's Ascension Parish. The majority of voters are property owners.


Posted by potent357
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2010
4038 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 10:15 pm to
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Chris Loar will solve it all though. Another silver spoon jackass that has no clue what made AP the place everyone wanted to move.
This arrogant prick is one of the biggest problems in the parish. frick him and Tommy Martinez.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 10:20 pm to
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This arrogant prick is one of the biggest problems in the parish.


When he first ran I remember him asking me, "What is the biggest problem you see facing our parish?"

I told him that I felt infrastructure was terrible and that the council just chooses to ignore it. How hwy 42 was 10 years overdue for widening and that the project keeps getting robbed to pay for other projects.

His response...
"What about recreation for our kids?"


Only other significant interaction with him was a year after Gustav when our neighboorhood needed help dealing with a utility contractor who had seriously neglected a property. Zero help, didn't even make a phone call.
This post was edited on 6/20/14 at 10:22 pm
Posted by guttata
prairieville
Member since Feb 2006
22513 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 10:28 pm to
I've heard they are going to build a soccer complex out at Lamar if this property tax passes. That's one thing that could really help their soccer assoc. It would also allow Gonzales the ability to host tournaments which would bring in more revenue from out of towners.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
48861 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 10:30 pm to
Other than Urine, a lot of fail in this thread.

Please don't move to EBR. Our recently completed four lane roads (that many of you use to work in the city) don't need any other traffic.

And stay the frick out of our parks.
Posted by potent357
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2010
4038 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 10:31 pm to
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I told him that I felt infrastructure was terrible and that the council just chooses to ignore it.
And once again, if this tax passes, (God forbid), you will have a few nice parks, a money losing facility in Lamar-Dixon, and piss poor roads to get you to both. The supporters of this tax put on a good show last night at the council meeting but it wasn't necessary. There was no way the usual 8 councilpersons under TM's thumb were going to deny it.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 10:48 pm to
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a lot of fail in this thread.

Tell me where I am wrong Martini.

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Please don't move to EBR. Our recently completed four lane roads (that many of you use to work in the city) don't need any other traffic.


Other than to drop tax dollars at your restaurants and stores, I do not.

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And stay the frick out of our parks.


Clean up your storm water before sending it through our parish.
This post was edited on 6/20/14 at 10:49 pm
Posted by Asgard Device
The Daedalus
Member since Apr 2011
11562 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 10:51 pm to
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Other than to drop tax dollars at your restaurants and stores,


Damn, Martini owns restaurants and stores? Plural?

OT balla!
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 10:59 pm to
Roads and parks as well.
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