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re: Arrest record the the man portrayed to be such a good person

Posted on 7/6/16 at 3:12 pm to
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
9739 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 3:12 pm to
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Your telling me a black guy got arrested for some shite in the 90's and it was all legit? Dude, we fricked with those guys as much as we could and laughed as they got all kinds of bs charges pinned on them. Or are you telling me the system treats them the same as me and you? Nimrod.



Posted by terd ferguson
Darren Wilson Fan Club President
Member since Aug 2007
108783 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 3:12 pm to
Don't make me frick you, Steven.
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17334 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 3:13 pm to
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If Jeremy Hill ever resists arrest and then reportedly reaches for a gun, he will be shot too. That's kind of how this whole thing works.


I haven't said anything about whether the guy deserved to be shot. I'm reserving judgement until the facts come out. IF he attempted to pull a gun then he deserved to be shot.

What I am saying is that this guy's arrest record is not justification for shooting him. That's kinda how the American constitution works.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
42020 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 3:15 pm to
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Don't make me frick you, Steven.




Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
9739 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 3:16 pm to
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6/03/09 resisting an officer, drug possession, receiving stolen things, possession of stolen firearm

Yea literally nothing. Are you capable of tying your own shoes?



Well did he shoot the cops???? Did he pull out his gat?
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
15929 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 3:16 pm to
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Literally the worst possible way to justify what may turn out to be a justified police shooting

His past record doesn't justify his death.

However, his past record also doesn't justify vigils, social media memes or characterizations such as "gentle giant" or "beloved in the community".
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
42020 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 3:16 pm to
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What I am saying is that this guy's arrest record is not justification for shooting him. That's kinda how the American constitution works.


Agreed

But his lifestyle was part of his undoing
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 3:17 pm to
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What I am saying is that this guy's arrest record is not justification for shooting him. That's kinda how the American constitution works.



Hopefully no one is saying that.

Its just a shame people are spouting how good of a guy he was on national TV and turning this into some innocent man being shot. He was a piece of shite human being that was a career violent criminal.

We know for a fact he illegally had a gun on him and the officers were responding to a 911 call about him threatening someone with that gun.

If it was a bad shoot, officers should be in trouble. But all these tears from all these people that did not know him are so fricking fake. This guy was not a student walking to class with his backpack and shot by police. He put himself in these situations his entire life and eventually it caught up to him.

He's lucky he wasn't shot and killed the FIRST time he had an illegal gun and resisted arrest. That is a damn good way to get yourself killed.



This post was edited on 7/6/16 at 3:19 pm
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112734 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 3:18 pm to
Well said.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43960 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 3:18 pm to
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What I am saying is that this guy's arrest record is not justification for shooting him. That's kinda how the American constitution works.


To act like someone's arrest record is completely irrelevant is nonsense. It speaks to their character and mindset. It's the same reason people use "He was a father/son/brother/student/good person" etc. etc. for why a person killed by cops was unjustified.

Posted by jlovel7
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
21351 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 3:18 pm to
Let's all just be real honest. If he was white, more restraint would've been shown in deciding whether or not to use lethal force.
Posted by 91TIGER
Lafayette
Member since Aug 2006
17745 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 3:19 pm to
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Carnal Knowledge of a Juvenile is a misdemeanor


It can be but in his case it was a felony. If he had to register he pled to the felony statute.
Posted by jlovel7
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
21351 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 3:19 pm to
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To act like someone's arrest record is completely irrelevant is nonsense. It speaks to their character and mindset. It's the same reason people use "He was a father/son/brother/student/good person" etc. etc. for why a person killed by cops was unjustified.



True, but the whole point of prison is rehabilitation. Creating someone who can re enter society.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 3:20 pm to
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the whole point of prison is rehabilitation. Creating someone who can re enter society.





You do realize this is the United States, right?
Posted by 91TIGER
Lafayette
Member since Aug 2006
17745 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 3:21 pm to
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Let's all just be real honest. If he was white, he probably would have shown more compliance and the decision to use lethal force would not have happened.




See how you can play this game ?
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43960 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 3:22 pm to
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True, but the whole point of prison is rehabilitation. Creating someone who can re enter society.


I'm not saying he did or didn't deserve to be killed. I'm saying if his community can rally around him being such a beacon of hope, without actual proof, then those who disagree can bring up his past to show otherwise.

Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17334 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 3:23 pm to
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Its just a shame people are spouting how good of a guy he was on national TV and turning this into some innocent man being shot. He was a piece of shite human being that was a career violent criminal.


Haven't argued against that at all. It's possible to believe he should neither be celebrated as a good person nor labelled as someone who had it coming based on his past.

Posted by tigahland
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jun 2016
3228 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 3:24 pm to
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No, I don't call cops. I spit on them. All are pussies. Couldn't handle a diabetic fat arse black dude so they shot him. LOL They sure will be popular in prison. Caught on video. Don't these morons know every cellphone has a camera on it now. Or they just teach "step out of the car please" still at the police academy. Not only pussies, but dumb ones.


this takes ignorance to a whole new level...
Posted by jlovel7
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
21351 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 3:24 pm to
Of course. We can all see that he was a former criminal. Key word former. None of us outside of that community knows any of the good he may or may not have done. They don't wipe each other out but they're both important. I hope to God if something ever happens to you or I that even if what the public sees is me in a negative light, that people that truly know me, come to my defense so I'm remembered as more than just what the public could see.
This post was edited on 7/6/16 at 3:25 pm
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17334 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 3:28 pm to
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To act like someone's arrest record is completely irrelevant is nonsense. It speaks to their character and mindset. It's the same reason people use "He was a father/son/brother/student/good person" etc. etc. for why a person killed by cops was unjustified.



Again, I never said his arrest record was irrelevant. I said he didn't deserve to be shot strictly because of his record. I dislike people people painting him as some hero just as much as those (not you specifically) seemly gloating that he was killed.
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