re: Are we headed to martial law?

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If "those people" did such a thing in a society with the number of armed civilians that we have in this country, "those people" would not last very long...at all.

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Which is exactly what Obama and Co would use as grounds for martial law. Can't have racist white people shooting innocents.

Ha, the cat's out of the bag, so to speak. With as heavily armed as the U.S. populace is, it would be bloodier than the civil war if martial law were to be imposed. The only scenario I can see this possibly happening would be one where there is a world war, and martial law is imposed so as to protect citizens. But even that is a far cry from reality, or ever happening.

Large global conflicts with multi national forces are a thing of the past. And to echo what has been mentioned already, it would have to be imposed by the very people that are going to be most affected by it. The average citizen. Good luck with that.

it's obvious several people fail to understand the way government agency budgeting works. it's a use it or lose it system. they lobby for the money, they get it, they have to use it or they face budget cuts the next year. i imagine with the onslaught of terrorism over the last decade and a half that there has been specific budgeting for security and defense, and that these purchases are a way for agencies to keep the money spigot flowing.

besides the outlandish nature of the idea of government workers employing martial law, it logistically doesn't make sense. do you think your local, unguarded post office is also hiding a stockpile of heavy weapons?

people are also missing the big picture about how our system of government works. say obama declares martial law, do you really think your local conservative sheriff is going to enforce that? your local national guard is probably heavily made up of local pd, sheriffs, firemen, etc., very few of which would ever turn on their own citizens. there have been several instances of high ranking elected state officials openly defying court orders (think gay marriage in alabama). what makes you think those people will suddenly bow down to obama and decide to start shooting up their citizens?

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Where I do think it could get interesting one day though is if we had major unrest in the hood. Imagine the economy going way to shite and things get really bad in south Chicago or Detroit. I guess the national guard could handle that, but you wonder if the feds would need to get involved in the whole fiasco.

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I think this whole thing is orchestrated for a major explosion during the Republican convention this summer.

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Please expound on this? Who's setting this up and why? Would it be just a national guard deal or are you suggesting the crazy stuff about a nation wide martial law of some kind.

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I believe there is a media push to create a frenzy, which we've seen a little of so far, during the Republican nomination. I believe media powers and government "elites" are far more in collusion than most people can see.

99% of the decisions that drive this country are done behind closed doors. We've been given the illusion of vote (in national elections)

This is a fairly mainstream theory, though it once lived in the shadows occupied by conspiracy types. After the things that have occurred this election cycle, I think many eyes have been opened. Martial law will become more common when people become conditioned to accepting "only the federal government can keep them safe." The Patriot Act was a huge step in that direction.

If voting made any difference, they wouldn't let us do it.

Ok, but do you really think they will push this as some kind of whole country deal or just something in a few urban hoods?
I just can't see it getting past that point.
And this whole original topic of arming up the rent a cops has nothing to do with what how your scenerio would play out.

you disgrace the Spaceman Spiff name w/this this thread

I think Obama wants a third term about as much as I want a second a-hole. Maybe even less. But yeah, keep on believing that crazy tinfoil hat bullshite.

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I think this whole thing is orchestrated for a major explosion during the Republican convention this summer.

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That was the topic of another conversation in the office - which is made of both right and left supporters and gets quite heated at times and brought up these questions: Why is it that the left/democrats are the only ones protesting (often violently) at the other sides rallys? Is it true that some of these very same protesters have been seen at different rallys and inciting anarchy? Why is the media not covering those facts (if you don't think this admin and the media aren't in bed, then you're blind)? Who is orchestrating that?

Whether you choose to believe this administration is up to something or not, its up to you. I just asked simple questions to get a feel from the glorious OT.